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Why are we all sinners?
Date: July 05, 2020 09:11AM
Sorry, now some will get angry with me. I don't mean to be nasty, I just look at this question because - hmmm I am not quite sure why. I just felt like asking it.
Are Buddhists sinners? Hindus? As far as I know I don't think they see themselves as such.
Not sure about Muslims and Jews either.
But Christians, yes, yes. They have to be, or they could not get saved.
The bible, common to Jews and Christians and to a certain degree the Muslims (as far as I know) tells about the garden of Eden. God put a fruit tree there and everybody assumes it was an apple tree. Who knows!
Anyway, then God said to the first couple of humans (were they married?) that they were not allowed to eat any apple, so why the dickens did he put it there? Rather dumb or nasty or what does everybody think? To see if Adam and Eve would obey?
Strange sort of dad.
I could have predicted they would try a lovely looking Apple. Children have pinched apples from trees ever since, and why not? They are healthy.
But hang on, there was a snake! The snake made Eve do it.
Aren't snakes a symbol of wisdom on the foreheads of the faraohs? And what about the two intertwined snakes on the medical staff, caduceus I think it is called, hm, like the DNAs. Double helix.
I think I have said enough. Over to others. What do you all think?
Of course we are not angels either, but having inherited a mortal sin from two people who gave birth to children who must have committed incest in order to fulfil God's advice of multiplying (outside the garden of Eden) so much that we are now grossly over populated.
GG.
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The snake told the Truth
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Abstract analyses vs. individual reality
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Your question
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[quote]Why do most people think it is wrong to steal? Probably because they can imagine how annoyed and inconvenienced they would be if they got burgled. [/quote]If survival is at stake, and food supply is scarce, then taking, if they can, the food anothe
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IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity.
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Re: IF food were scarce then we weigh in as survival of the fittest. We are not so noble if we don't have food, the basic neccessity.
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Wrong-doing
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What difference does it make?
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G. F. Handel would Disagree
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Modern update
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Modern junk.......
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I know why we are all sinners!
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It's a sin to tell a lie
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Why you are all sinners, but I am not!
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I knew lots about sin
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The Ground of Being
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You've got it backwards
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You can answer your own questions
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For something you don't believe exists
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Happy endings
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Fat chance
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Sin
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And now-Hope!!!
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Sin, nastiness, judging
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Mostly a sweetheart
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Why are we NOT sinners, but consciousness?
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Einstein and the Poet
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Consciousness precedes and supercedes any notion of sin.
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The Physical Reality is composed of 99,99999% emptiness
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To miss the mark
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Early history
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Oh Susan
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About Jesus
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The Christian way
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To mind my own business...
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To make an observation of choices of thought....
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