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Rebecca Bradley wrote:
Your ignorance is breathtaking, but you can do something about it.

Thanks Rebecca, I have been doing some research on whether the heart is a hydraulic pump.

From; RUDOLF STEINER RESEARCH CENTER – see [www.rsarchive.org]

Quoting from the above site:
In 1932, Bremer (John Lewis Bremer) of Harvard Medical School filmed the blood in the very early embryo circulating in self-propelled mode in spiralling streams before the heart was functioning.



Earlier in 1920, Rudolf Steiner, of the Goetheanum in Switzerland had pointed out in lectures to medical doctors that the heart was not a pump forcing inert blood to move with pressure but that the blood was propelled with its own biological momentum, as can be seen in the embryo, and boosts itself with "induced" momenta from the heart.



From; The Culmination of My Life's Work: Human Heart, Cosmic Heart. see: [fourfoldhealing.com]

The above links to a review of Thomas Cowan’s book; Human Heart, Cosmic Heart

Quoting from the review:
More than 30 years ago I (Thomas Cowan) learned that Rudolf Steiner said the “scientific” conception of the heart as the pump that moves the blood was one of the most egregious inaccuracies in our modern conception of life. He spoke about the many repercussions of this misconception, including how people understand and organize their world. I have lived with this alternative picture of the heart for decades, studying in every way possible the anatomy, physiology and function of the human heart.


Another site that discusses Thomas Cowan’s book:

A Doctor’s Quest to Understand, Treat, and Prevent Cardiovascular Disease – see: [www.chelseagreen.com]

Quoting from the above article:
… he (Thomas Cowan) remained intrigued by the work of Price and Steiner and, in particular, with Steiner’s provocative claim that the heart is not a pump. Determined to practice medicine in a way that promoted healing rather than compounded ailments, Cowan dedicated himself to understanding whether Steiner’s claim could possibly be true. And if Steiner was correct, what, then, is the heart? What is its true role in the human body?

In this deeply personal, rigorous, and riveting account, Dr. Cowan offers up a daring claim: Not only was Steiner correct that the heart is not a pump, but our understanding of heart disease—with its origins in the blood vessels—is completely wrong. And this gross misunderstanding, with its attendant medications and risky surgeries, is the reason heart disease remains the most common cause of death worldwide.




An article, by the Rudolf Steiner Research Center, published in the 1995 issue of “Frontier Perspectives.” Which is the journal of the Center for Frontier Sciences at Temple University in Philadelphia, PA states:4
“The heart, an organ weighing about three hundred grams, is supposed to `pump’ some eight thousand liters of blood per day at rest and much more during activity, without fatigue. In terms of mechanical work this represents the lifting of approximately 100 pounds one mile high! In terms of capillary flow, the heart is performing an even more prodigious task of `forcing’ the blood with a viscosity five times greater than that of water through millions of capillaries with diameters often smaller than the red blood cells themselves! Clearly, such claims go beyond reason and imagination.” Our hearts simply cannot contract that forcefully."


Someone here has breathtaking ignorance - it is not Rudolf Steiner!



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