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Hmmmmm, well, that’s a bit of a marathon, but I’ll have a go at answering some of the points!
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Susan: How would you describe the 'ethereal' parts of yourself?
My Reply: In simple terms, soul and spirit, tonal & nagual, depends on the many cultures who have different names for them. Egyptians actually believed in 5 or 6 different bodies (all within one another) in addition to the physical body. Susan, I know this will not be a satisfactory answer for you, but in my experience these other selves exist and have different functions. I think most people are not aware of soul/spirit except in a superficial way – that is until they die.
Of course we are a combination of many different aspects, ideas and experiences, but they are all contained in the one physical body, and that’s a fact whether we think of them differently or not.
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My Reply: Logic is brain centered. Logic is two-dimensional. Add to that, the brain is easily fooled. I operate on heart centered intelligence
You can call it what you like, but even though the whole body works as a unit, and even though it appears that some science has found that the heart reacts as the brain does – a split second before we are aware of what we are going to do or think (although I doubt very much whether this idea that the heart works ahead of the brain is any more than simply a matter of the brain needing a little more energy to do its thinking), I do not accept the idea of ‘heart-centred intelligence’ as any more than a slightly more fanciful way of describing thinking in all its aspects.

To say that 'the brain is secondary to the heart has no physical, objective meaning.

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Me: Well, because I did not create the universe. There has to be some other explanation.
You can have as many ideas of how the universe began as you like, but was not created – that implies a creator. No scientist can, nor will ever be able to, say exatly how the universe started, or whether it is one of a series, etc, but much has been explained, and certainly enough to reject the idea of some other something doing some creating.
[[quote]Me: What about wind, music, emotions (heart based), time, and light. [/quote]
Wind – explained scientifically and objectively.
Music – an evolved aspect of the human brain (and probably of many animals too) to make and imitate sounds which vibrate on similar wavelengths, etc etc.
Emotions – Mountains of evidence about the way all living things have chemicals etc which produce feelings of all sorts and remain evolutionarily selected for for obvious reasons.
Time – a thing which happens and to which humans have given a name.
Light – a natural effect of enormous heat.

I think that will do for now!

Susan

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What is the point of Evolution? 1772 thirdpal 05-Nov-19 18:53
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 291 thirdpal 06-Nov-19 17:39
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 268 thirdpal 13-Nov-19 17:52
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 287 Susan Doris 14-Nov-19 06:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 253 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:22
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 234 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:08
An accident 228 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 00:01
Re: An accident 226 Susan Doris 20-Nov-19 06:06
No accident 240 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:28
Re: No accident 226 tayga 23-Nov-19 08:13
Re: No accident 231 Susan Doris 23-Nov-19 08:33
Re: No accident 217 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:13
Re: No accident 206 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 06:22
Re: No accident 215 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 09:17
Re: No accident 207 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 14:06
Re: No accident 204 Susan Doris 24-Nov-19 16:36
Re: No accident 213 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 16:52
Re: No accident 200 greengirl5 24-Nov-19 20:26
Re: No accident 204 Eddie Larry 24-Nov-19 23:38
Re: No accident 205 greengirl5 25-Nov-19 00:50
Re: No accident 214 Eddie Larry 25-Nov-19 01:01
Re: No accident 227 Susan Doris 25-Nov-19 07:07
Re: No accident 213 greengirl5 23-Nov-19 11:09
Re: An accident 212 Itatw70s 26-Nov-19 23:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 233 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 08:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 241 thirdpal 14-Nov-19 19:29
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 222 Eddie Larry 14-Nov-19 22:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 240 Susan Doris 15-Nov-19 06:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 246 thirdpal 15-Nov-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 228 Susan Doris 16-Nov-19 06:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 225 thirdpal 18-Nov-19 18:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 222 Eddie Larry 18-Nov-19 21:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 231 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 08:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 224 thirdpal 19-Nov-19 18:30
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 213 Susan Doris 19-Nov-19 23:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 220 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 209 Susan Doris 21-Nov-19 06:24
Einstein again 209 greengirl5 21-Nov-19 12:59
Re: Einstein again 197 Eddie Larry 21-Nov-19 17:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 232 thirdpal 21-Nov-19 19:40
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 225 Susan Doris 22-Nov-19 08:21
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 205 tayga 23-Nov-19 13:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 207 Eddie Larry 23-Nov-19 14:31
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 229 greengirl5 20-Nov-19 09:34
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 253 thirdpal 20-Nov-19 14:27
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 211 Itatw70s 27-Nov-19 00:19
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 194 Eddie Larry 21-Dec-19 21:08
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 216 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 19:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 174 Eddie Larry 23-Dec-19 19:45
Mod Note > Topic Moved 226 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Nov-19 16:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 226 gulsbo 26-Nov-19 14:26
Stupid is the word! 218 greengirl5 26-Nov-19 21:28
Re: Stupid is the word! 223 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 16:12
Re: Stupid is the word! 238 Susan Doris 27-Nov-19 17:06
Re: Stupid is the word! 227 gulsbo 27-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Stupid is the word! 224 Eddie Larry 27-Nov-19 18:47
Your problem 227 drrayeye 27-Nov-19 19:20
Re: Your problem 223 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 06:30
Lets stick to the OP 210 drrayeye 28-Nov-19 10:07
Re: Lets stick to the OP 218 Susan Doris 28-Nov-19 13:48
Re: Your problem 219 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 13:53
Re: Your problem 227 Eddie Larry 28-Nov-19 17:22
Re: Your problem 223 gulsbo 28-Nov-19 19:50
Re: Your problem 220 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 00:34
Re: Your problem 227 gulsbo 29-Nov-19 15:49
Re: Your problem 211 Eddie Larry 29-Nov-19 17:30
Re: Your problem 206 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 13:49
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 210 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:40
Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 196 drrayeye 30-Nov-19 20:58
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 213 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 00:17
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 200 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 04:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 209 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 04:35
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 201 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:03
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 202 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 14:41
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 208 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:30
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 199 drrayeye 03-Dec-19 03:54
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 204 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:36
Your "philosophical" evolution 196 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 205 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:14
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 194 Glass Jigsaw 04-Dec-19 15:19
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 201 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 08:02
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 200 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 13:10
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 201 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 19:10
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 198 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 205 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:43
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 205 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 06:39
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 202 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 06:59
Your "philosophical" evolution 202 drrayeye 04-Dec-19 14:33
Re: Your "philosophical" evolution 221 gulsbo 04-Dec-19 15:33
It's still philosophy 197 drrayeye 05-Dec-19 00:06
Re: It's still philosophy 213 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:10
Re: It's still philosophy 190 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:33
Re: It's still philosophy 220 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:36
Re: It's still philosophy 201 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:21
Re: It's still philosophy 220 gulsbo 06-Dec-19 08:02
Re: It's still philosophy 207 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:21
Re: It's still philosophy 228 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:41
Re: It's still philosophy 192 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:21
Re: It's still philosophy 228 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:26
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 201 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:00
Scientists don't refute 213 drrayeye 01-Dec-19 06:33
Re: Scientists don't refute 204 Glass Jigsaw 01-Dec-19 19:01
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 215 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 21:27
NOPE 202 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:11
Re: NOPE 210 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 01:18
Re: NOPE 206 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 06:28
Re: NOPE 195 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:53
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 183 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:04
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 174 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:50
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 176 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 18:05
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 172 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 18:10
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 187 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 12:52
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 178 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 14:29
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 172 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 14:49
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 176 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 15:13
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 189 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 180 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:39
Re: Scientists don't refute - They evolve 206 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 18:31
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 188 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 13:32
100% faith 180 greengirl5 01-Dec-19 21:17
Re: 100% faith 183 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:27
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 193 greengirl5 02-Dec-19 20:44
Re: 99 % faith and something new to do 176 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 06:04
Re: 100% faith 180 Susan Doris 03-Dec-19 16:08
Short email sent 177 greengirl5 03-Dec-19 21:19
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 183 drrayeye 02-Dec-19 00:29
Re: Scientific vs. "philosophical" evolution 181 Susan Doris 02-Dec-19 06:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 182 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 05:44
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 188 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 185 Glass Jigsaw 03-Dec-19 12:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 180 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 18:40
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 190 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:54
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 184 Eddie Larry 04-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 207 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 15:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 182 Susan Doris 05-Dec-19 15:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 202 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:39
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 180 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 16:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 215 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 20:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 179 Eddie Larry 05-Dec-19 23:14
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 178 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 00:31
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 172 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:30
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 188 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 05:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 179 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 06:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 175 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 17:17
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 162 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 18:24
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 171 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:00
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 179 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 167 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:20
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 177 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 12:09
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 176 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 14:37
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 202 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:50
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 171 Eddie Larry 07-Dec-19 23:58
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 178 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 17:59
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 179 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 19:03
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 187 Glass Jigsaw 06-Dec-19 19:28
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 184 Eddie Larry 06-Dec-19 20:47
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 202 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:53
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 174 Glass Jigsaw 07-Dec-19 13:01
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 208 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:35
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 181 Glass Jigsaw 08-Dec-19 13:23
Re: Your problem - “The intermediates!” 197 gulsbo 23-Dec-19 12:34
Re: Your problem 193 greengirl5 29-Nov-19 20:51
Re: Your problem 188 Glass Jigsaw 29-Nov-19 19:26
Re: Your problem 187 Susan Doris 30-Nov-19 06:14
Re: Your problem 194 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 14:11
Re: Your problem 174 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:19
Re: Your problem 171 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:08
Re: Your problem 182 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:25
Re: Your problem 179 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 15:45
Re: Your problem 188 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 15:57
Re: Your problem 183 Glass Jigsaw 30-Nov-19 16:04
Re: Your problem 199 gulsbo 30-Nov-19 17:43
Re: Your problem 188 Eddie Larry 30-Nov-19 20:26
Re: Your problem 188 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 14:57
Re: Your problem 182 Eddie Larry 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: Your problem 185 gulsbo 02-Dec-19 11:38
Re: Your problem 191 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 14:59
Re: Your problem 190 Glass Jigsaw 02-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 177 Eddie Larry 02-Dec-19 17:45
Re: Your problem 193 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 10:54
Re: Your problem 182 Eddie Larry 03-Dec-19 15:11
Re: Your problem 198 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 21:59
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 208 Enigcom 01-Dec-19 04:02
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 201 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 06:17
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 180 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:49
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 182 Susan Doris 04-Dec-19 15:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 211 gulsbo 01-Dec-19 15:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 202 Susan Doris 01-Dec-19 16:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 194 gulsbo 03-Dec-19 11:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 199 Enigcom 04-Dec-19 14:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 211 Enigcom 03-Dec-19 18:58
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 227 gulsbo 05-Dec-19 16:41
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 199 Susan Doris 06-Dec-19 01:32
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 220 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 11:56
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 185 Susan Doris 07-Dec-19 13:54
Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 197 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 20:50
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 242 gulsbo 07-Dec-19 22:44
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 187 Mayavitch 07-Dec-19 23:27
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 195 Susan Doris 08-Dec-19 05:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 201 Mayavitch 08-Dec-19 17:53
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 182 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 07:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 172 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 13:33
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 176 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 14:01
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 169 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 15:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 169 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 18:41
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 173 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 20:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 173 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:38
Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 182 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 171 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 06:34
Evidence never good enough for some 166 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:24
Re: Evidence never good enough for some 164 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:13
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 173 drrayeye 11-Dec-19 11:36
Re: Perhaps “bossy” would be better! 157 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 177 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 18:55
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 176 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:15
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 181 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 19:34
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 189 Susan Doris 09-Dec-19 19:51
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 187 Mayavitch 09-Dec-19 21:13
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 181 Eddie Larry 09-Dec-19 22:45
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 177 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 22:07
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 172 Eddie Larry 10-Dec-19 23:28
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 192 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 01:49
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 188 Mayavitch 10-Dec-19 19:21
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 181 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 01:39
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 175 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:48
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 177 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 16:35
A tip for you 167 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 21:24
Re: A tip for you 174 Susan Doris 11-Dec-19 22:30
Re: A tip for you 175 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 02:45
Re: A tip for you 179 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 14:27
Re: A tip for you 176 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 15:15
My way 163 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 17:47
Re: My way 177 Susan Doris 12-Dec-19 18:18
All roads lead to beliefs 180 Eddie Larry 12-Dec-19 18:51
Re: All roads lead to beliefs 171 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:00
Seek and you will find 175 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 21:58
Re: My way 183 drrayeye 12-Dec-19 23:05
Re: My way 171 Susan Doris 13-Dec-19 06:19
Re: My way 167 Glass Jigsaw 13-Dec-19 11:57
Re: Evolution is inexorably on the ascendent 168 greengirl5 11-Dec-19 11:38
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 191 D-Archer 10-Dec-19 14:51
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 194 Susan Doris 10-Dec-19 15:18
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 178 D-Archer 12-Dec-19 15:46
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 183 greengirl5 12-Dec-19 22:03
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 233 D-Archer 13-Dec-19 13:26
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 189 drrayeye 10-Dec-19 18:01
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 206 gulsbo 21-Dec-19 21:04
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 171 Kaaron 23-Dec-19 22:09
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 157 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 07:12
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 189 Kaaron 24-Dec-19 09:54
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 166 Susan Doris 24-Dec-19 18:15
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 178 Eddie Larry 24-Dec-19 18:44
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 200 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:36
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 166 Kaaron 29-Dec-19 19:45
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 293 Eddie Larry 29-Dec-19 21:11
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 196 Kaaron 25-Dec-19 07:07
Re: What is the point of Evolution? 217 gulsbo 29-Dec-19 19:30


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