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Eddie Larry Wrote:
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> Perhaps Susan and Cloister, you could say life
> developed “naturally”, according to natural
> law? “Deliberately “ seems a bit too strong.


I tend to agree. We humans, do not know, how life started and the problem is at the moment overwhelmingly too difficult for the highest calibre specialist scientists that study it.

I think (agree) more likely to be an intrinsic capacity in the aggregate substance of the universe. Substances which ARE known and those yet to be, or perhaps , impossible to discover. We sometimes call it "Mother nature" or some people call it "God".

Only the most simple minded and egotistical humans would imagine that it was deliberate choice by a human like anthropomorphic entity ,like an old man in the sky, that somehow has a son who happens to be exactly himself, that can or does infiltrate everything as well (although that last part is closer I think) .
Worse that the entire 'shebang' purpose was all focused on some stupid 'Johnny come lately' bipodal apes living on a planet, in one of the 200 billion plus galaxies.
Ego - it is all about ME!

The cop out is dogmatic specific "belief" based on faith, which by definition requires no evidence at all. It IS its own evidence, circular reasoning.

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Why can't religion and science both be right? 2421 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 20:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 289 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 273 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 261 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 264 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:25
Propaganda or Egotism..... 275 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 23:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 275 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:19
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 262 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 23:27
Mod Note > Threaded vs. Flat View 266 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Aug-19 23:55
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 263 rkmcquillen 23-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 248 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 12:48
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 250 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 247 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 14:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 253 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 248 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 250 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:26
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 250 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 242 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 242 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 245 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 251 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 256 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 252 Eddie Larry 23-Aug-19 18:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 239 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 241 Eddie Larry 24-Aug-19 13:57
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 237 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 251 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:30
Share your knowhow!!! 248 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:44
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 257 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 240 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 17:37
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 240 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 248 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:23
The universe is not mysterious 241 greengirl5 23-Aug-19 23:27
Science vs.God? 259 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:53
Here we go again 250 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Here we go again 252 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:28
Why pretend? 249 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:28
Re: Why pretend? 243 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 21:04
Re: Why pretend? 242 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 21:39
Re: Why pretend? 243 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 22:09
Re: Why pretend? 249 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 22:59
Re: Why pretend? 239 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 00:48
Re: Why pretend? 254 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 00:42
Re: Why pretend? 236 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:17
Re: Why pretend? 241 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:40
Re: Why pretend? 221 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 08:16
Re: Why pretend? 232 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 09:47
Re: Why pretend? 243 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 09:59
Re: Why pretend? 236 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 228 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 10:16
Re: Why pretend? 257 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:43
How many NASA engineers 250 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:28
Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 242 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:36
Re: Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 239 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:50
Show respect 249 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:22
a Re: Show respect 247 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 12:54
Seeing faults in one self 238 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:02
Christianity 242 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:10
Re: Christianity 250 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 13:00
Re: Christianity 256 Richard Fusniak 26-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Christianity 246 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:02
Re: Christianity 238 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Christianity 253 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Christianity 244 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Christianity 237 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:13
Re: Christianity 245 Richard Fusniak 28-Aug-19 21:54
Re: Christianity 236 Jrevans 28-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Christianity 254 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:05
Re: Christianity 245 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 12:13
Re: Christianity 231 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 13:16
Re: Christianity 238 greengirl5 01-Sep-19 14:23
Re: Christianity 237 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 14:37
Re: Christianity 236 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:21
Re: Christianity 242 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:37
Re: Christianity 249 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 15:43
Re: Christianity 236 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:50
NONSENSE 256 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 23:04
Re: NONSENSE 237 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 05:32
Normal (in science/math) 248 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:25
Re: Normal (in science/math) 230 shando 02-Sep-19 11:36
Re: Normal (in science/math) 229 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 12:37
Re: Christianity 234 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 23:51
Re: Christianity and the supernormal 238 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:51
Re: Christianity 235 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Christianity 228 Eddie Larry 02-Sep-19 04:44
Science, spiritualism, and evangelical atheism 238 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 15:52
Paranormal boards and debunking 207 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:44
Re: Christianity 242 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:58
Re: Christianity 234 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:16
A basic human right.... 174 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 23:59
Re: Christianity 233 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Christianity 232 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:34
Re: Christianity 228 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 14:44
Re: Christianity 233 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 04:58
Very dangerous 229 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:57
Re: Christianity 223 Nolondil 27-Aug-19 16:57
Re: Why pretend? 254 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 16:39
Pangenesis 226 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Pangenesis 230 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:22
Re: Pangenesis 231 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Pangenesis 225 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Pangenesis 232 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:13
Re: Pangenesis 177 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:21
Re: Pangenesis 231 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:11
I already explained it, 242 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:31
Re: I already explained it, 227 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:13
If 223 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 09:42
Re: If 224 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:01
Re: If 210 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 11:34
Re: If 230 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:23
Descartes and Elizabeth 247 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 07:08
Re: I already explained it, 242 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:10
Re: I already explained it, 240 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:21
Re: I already explained it, 177 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:30
No straddling 181 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 06:04
Re: No straddling 171 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:10
Re: Pangenesis 238 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Pangenesis 227 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:08
Re: Pangenesis 228 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:37
Reason for posting 230 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Reason for posting 225 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:44
Where did all the stuff come from? 215 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 21:53
Re: Where did all the stuff come from? 237 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 04:50
Are you sure 232 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:47
Re: Are you sure 228 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why pretend? 172 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:44
Re: Why pretend? 227 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Why pretend? 240 cloister 26-Aug-19 06:42
Re: Why pretend? 229 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:56
Re: Why pretend? 235 cloister 26-Aug-19 08:18
Re: Why pretend? 225 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:00
Re: Why pretend? 246 cloister 26-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Why pretend? 230 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 15:19
Re: Why pretend? 264 cloister 26-Aug-19 18:47
Re: Why pretend? 232 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:27
Re: Why pretend? 219 cloister 27-Aug-19 05:29
Re: Why pretend? 204 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:24
Re: Why pretend? 229 cloister 27-Aug-19 07:17
Re: Why pretend? 225 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:31
Re: Why pretend? 236 cloister 27-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 224 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:45
Re: Why pretend? 236 cloister 27-Aug-19 11:30
Re: Why pretend? 223 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why pretend? 219 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:00
Re: Why pretend? 238 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 15:45
Re: Why pretend? 216 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 17:55
Re: Why pretend? 227 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Why pretend? 248 cloister 27-Aug-19 19:33
Re: Why pretend? 221 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Why pretend? 252 cloister 28-Aug-19 07:11
Re: Why pretend? 221 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 08:35
Re: Why pretend? 239 cloister 28-Aug-19 11:00
Re: Why pretend? 218 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Why pretend? 225 cloister 28-Aug-19 13:38
Re: Why pretend? 228 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Why pretend? 224 cloister 28-Aug-19 16:11
Re: Why pretend? 214 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:15
saying "don't know." 215 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:27
Re: saying "don't know." 221 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:47
Trapped 226 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:00
Re: Trapped 228 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:07
Congratulations 232 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:31
Re: Congratulations 214 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:07
Every once in awhile 226 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Every once in awhile 220 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 20:39
When you comment about science 228 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 01:30
Re: When you comment about science 218 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 05:06
Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 219 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 06:17
Re: Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 223 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 07:00
No room for arrogance in science or spirit 230 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 07:38
Re: No room for arrogance in science or spirit 211 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 10:15
Unlucky number 13 242 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Unlucky number 13 221 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 13:45
Unknown possibilities 222 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:19
Re: Unknown possibilities 230 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:11
Re: Unknown possibilities 229 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 17:00
Re: Why pretend? 224 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 13:17
Natural law 225 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Natural law 227 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 14:37
Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 237 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 235 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 01:52
No chance! 232 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 03:50
Re: No chance! 237 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 08:03
Re: No chance! 219 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 13:30
Re: No chance! 228 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:29
Dreams----crucial or not? 171 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:12
Re: No chance! 231 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 22:29
Re: No chance! 174 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:03
Well done 228 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 13:54
Re: Well done 219 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:44
Not so easy to dismiss 211 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:20
Re: Not so easy to dismiss 219 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:10
What you call "patronizing' 218 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 18:58
differences of perspective, but . . . 216 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:04
Re: Why pretend? 217 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 21:50
Re: Why pretend? 232 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 00:05
Re: Why pretend? 219 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 03:56
Re: Why pretend? 215 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 04:30
Re: Why pretend? 213 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Why pretend? 217 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 03:36
Re: Why pretend? 217 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 04:58
Re: Why pretend? 226 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:34
Re: Why pretend? 228 Jrevans 27-Aug-19 15:54
There are other possibilities 226 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 17:19
Re: There are other possibilities 226 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 18:10
Big difference 220 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 19:26
Re: Big difference 229 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:45
Who made nothing? 216 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 02:05
Re: Why pretend? 216 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:21
Blew by you 221 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:16
Nope 223 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 02:04
Re: Why pretend? 224 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 231 GramPong 23-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 238 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 00:58
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 230 GramPong 24-Aug-19 17:02
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 228 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 242 GramPong 24-Aug-19 21:35
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 237 jazzmumbles 25-Aug-19 01:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 223 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 05:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 240 jazzmumbles 28-Aug-19 01:13
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 214 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:53
Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 215 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 08:13
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 228 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:07
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 217 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 22:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 228 rkmcquillen 26-Aug-19 20:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 222 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:41
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 230 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 211 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 21:55
Don't forget the oral traditions of indigenous tribes.... 233 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 19:32
Mod Note > Topic Moved 257 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Aug-19 15:54
Great start 252 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 17:11
Re: Great start 239 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Great start 229 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:37
Re: Great start 256 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 01:25
Patterns of Evidence 230 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:37
Re: Great start 229 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Great start 233 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Great start 231 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:34
Re: Great start 233 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:43
Re: Great start 220 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:51
Let's help James explore 223 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 13:15
Re: Let's help James explore 232 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:24
Re: Let's help James explore 220 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:32
Re: Let's help James explore 226 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 16:19
Re: Let's help James explore 234 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:03
Re: Let's help James explore 230 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:23
More detail 229 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 18:31
interesting history 249 grangram 26-Aug-19 19:33
Re: interesting history 219 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:17
Re: interesting history 239 grangram 26-Aug-19 23:38
How about Noah's Ark 225 grangram 26-Aug-19 20:40
Re: How about Noah's Ark 223 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:38
Thanks 225 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:20
Rohl and the tower of babel? 228 grangram 28-Aug-19 09:51
Gabrieli oldstyle 204 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:18
Sometimes words get in the way 251 grangram 03-Sep-19 06:02
Finally watched both of them 205 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 07:44
Noah's Ark 273 grangram 12-Sep-19 09:19
Re: Let's help James explore 227 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 16:39
Re: Let's help James explore 236 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:22
Re: Let's help James explore 227 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Let's help James explore 218 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:58
Re: Let's help James explore 228 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 19:22
Re: Let's help James explore 226 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Let's help James explore 220 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 11:32
Re: Let's help James explore 228 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 13:01
Quality and Sensitivity 231 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 243 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 15:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 238 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 220 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 16:40
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 221 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 16:59
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 226 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:14
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 237 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 239 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 232 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 234 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 238 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:53
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 221 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:02
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 253 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 18:16
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 257 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 17:57
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 248 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:06
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 214 shando 02-Sep-19 12:16
I'm not a teacher 252 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 06:58
Re: I'm not a teacher 250 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 14:28
Re: I'm not a teacher 211 shando 02-Sep-19 12:21
Re: Great start 169 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:40
Re: Great start 278 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 236 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 12:42
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 246 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 246 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 248 Jrevans 30-Aug-19 12:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 231 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 21:00
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 223 shando 02-Sep-19 18:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 235 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 05:17
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 224 Susan Doris 04-Mar-20 06:42
Salvation - another myth 234 Richard Fusniak 23-Oct-19 13:24
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 198 SandyJesse 01-Nov-19 22:27
Susan's thread--"from jrevans" 232 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 20:57
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 228 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Sep-19 21:25
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 219 Mayavitch 10-Oct-19 20:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 202 rulebook54 19-Oct-19 15:52


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