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Hi Susan

I know you enjoy the forum banter and I have a few minutes now so I will attempt to oblige.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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I gave up arguing with you years ago.
>
> Well, if you have a spare half-hour or something,
> why not have a go at saying why!! Actually, I've
> never thought of discussion here as argument, but
> always as discussion. Views firmly expressed, but
> that's what makes a discussion interesting.
> Arguing is trying to win. I've never been
> interested in winning or losing, it's the
> discussion that counts every time.

Corp: The comment was not made to put you down or diminish your input in any way.

The reason is simply obvious in that you hold a very fixed view of things on this subject. That is your right and I do not expect it to change. However, you had (via the video), a very good chance to challenge your own position by considering carefully and thoroughly what the scientist (James Tour) had to say on his specialist, science only, matter.

As for losing and winning. I think your comment to be a little disingenuous . I will believe you because I like you. ;-)

So , in this case YOU LOSE! ( I will try to explain why in brief later at bottom)


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I watched the video and the scientist is
> James M Tour, Rice University USA
> thank you. I have googled him and wikipedia,
> amongst the list of headings, has 'dissent from
> darwin' which I linked on. A paragraph or two is
> enough to show that he has been linked with
> attempts to discredit the TofE in favour of
> Intelligent Design. Need I say more? I will,
> however read more about him later. But his
> aggressive rant on that video places him outside
> the solid foundation and support for the tofE.

Corp: The video of James Tour which Cloister posted ( there is actually a longer better or clearer one available) is about abiogenesis, not TofE . It is what had to, required to, have happened first, before Evolution.

He obviously has issues with Evolution I wont bother listening to his further rants.

Regardless of his religious crap, he is super qualified to discuss abiogenesis and presents a solid, indisputable case.


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His website introduces his massive long
> list of achievements etc apparently voted in the
> top 50 most influential scientists in the world.
>
> As is always the case, it does not matter how many
> achievements one has had, that does not make a woo
> digression, speech or fringe book right or valid.

Corp: As above he was talking strictly science, in his field as a world leading expert in that field.

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His is pretty clear that random chance is
> not enough. It needs mindboggling compounding
> hugely improbable coincidences and a plan.
>
> He can be as clear as he wants to be, but it won't
> stand up to the scrutiny required.Unless
> hisopinion is backed up by experimentation etc it
> remains an opinion only with 'unknown' as the
> inevitable label given to the speculations
> involved.

Corp: His actual experimentation in synthetic chemistry and nanotechnology is way beyond astounding!

He was not talking opinion. He was stating fact as far as humans are currently able to understand it and emphasising (without actually stating it this way) that discovery of the basis for abiogenesis, is absolutely unlikely to be discovered in the foreseeable future existence of human kind. It is much too big of a problem.


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What you have called "unknown" is what a
> lot of others call "God".
> well, I do actually know that!!

Corp: Then every time someone on this forum says "God" you replace it with "unknown" and you will both be in absolute agreement! Until they start preaching about their "personal epistemology" and what they think, or have been told , that "unknown" says, or does, or dictates.

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What you reject, is the human mythology and
> pretence about knowing the "unknown", which is
> called "religion".
> That sentence doesn't make enough clear sense for
> me to respond to.


Corp: I was meaning you reject, and are entitled to reject, religion! It is a human invention to fill the unknown gap and control people.

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PS Gee he (scientist) is a raving ranter
> who is difficult to listen too though!
> Why did you inflict that on me then?!
> :D
> We end this exchange here then on a point of
> agreement.
>
> Susan

Corp: I mean just because he is a religious nutter (almost a requirement for funding and political correctness in USA) does not mean we ought not listen to something scientific, which he knows lots about, is a world leader in, and that makes absolute indisputable sense.

What is the cross over point between "chemicals" and "life" ? No one knows and it cannot happen by random chance and lots of billions of years of time. It requires sophisticated planning and management of so many variables scientists can't even begin to think of how! Edit to add: His emphasis was that simple scientific attempts at experimentation, have not even come remotely close to even building the most basic requirements for "life" with compound improbability MUCH MUCH greater than the number of estimated atoms in the universe !
Something was in charge of organising the beginning of it.

Kindest regards
Steve



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 28-Aug-19 04:20 by Corpuscles.

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Why can't religion and science both be right? 2511 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 20:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 319 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 300 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 288 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 296 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:25
Propaganda or Egotism..... 304 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 23:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 303 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:19
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 297 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 23:27
Mod Note > Threaded vs. Flat View 295 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Aug-19 23:55
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 305 rkmcquillen 23-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 280 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 12:48
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 277 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 277 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 14:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 279 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 276 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 279 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:26
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 278 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 268 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 269 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 272 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 277 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 284 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 281 Eddie Larry 23-Aug-19 18:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 268 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 269 Eddie Larry 24-Aug-19 13:57
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 266 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 279 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:30
Share your knowhow!!! 277 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:44
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 285 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 268 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 17:37
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 267 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 274 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:23
The universe is not mysterious 273 greengirl5 23-Aug-19 23:27
Science vs.God? 290 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:53
Here we go again 278 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Here we go again 280 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:28
Why pretend? 276 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:28
Re: Why pretend? 275 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 21:04
Re: Why pretend? 271 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 21:39
Re: Why pretend? 270 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 22:09
Re: Why pretend? 276 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 22:59
Re: Why pretend? 266 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 00:48
Re: Why pretend? 283 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 00:42
Re: Why pretend? 264 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:17
Re: Why pretend? 270 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:40
Re: Why pretend? 249 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 08:16
Re: Why pretend? 260 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 09:47
Re: Why pretend? 270 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 09:59
Re: Why pretend? 269 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 256 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 10:16
Re: Why pretend? 284 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:43
How many NASA engineers 278 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:28
Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 270 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:36
Re: Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 265 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:50
Show respect 277 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:22
a Re: Show respect 276 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 12:54
Seeing faults in one self 266 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:02
Christianity 271 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:10
Re: Christianity 278 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 13:00
Re: Christianity 289 Richard Fusniak 26-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Christianity 274 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:02
Re: Christianity 265 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Christianity 282 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Christianity 271 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Christianity 265 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:13
Re: Christianity 276 Richard Fusniak 28-Aug-19 21:54
Re: Christianity 263 Jrevans 28-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Christianity 286 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:05
Re: Christianity 274 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 12:13
Re: Christianity 258 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 13:16
Re: Christianity 267 greengirl5 01-Sep-19 14:23
Re: Christianity 264 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 14:37
Re: Christianity 264 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:21
Re: Christianity 269 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:37
Re: Christianity 276 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 15:43
Re: Christianity 269 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:50
NONSENSE 285 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 23:04
Re: NONSENSE 264 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 05:32
Normal (in science/math) 277 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:25
Re: Normal (in science/math) 257 shando 02-Sep-19 11:36
Re: Normal (in science/math) 255 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 12:37
Re: Christianity 260 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 23:51
Re: Christianity and the supernormal 264 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:51
Re: Christianity 260 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Christianity 254 Eddie Larry 02-Sep-19 04:44
Science, spiritualism, and evangelical atheism 263 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 15:52
Paranormal boards and debunking 232 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:44
Re: Christianity 266 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:58
Re: Christianity 259 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:16
A basic human right.... 197 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 23:59
Re: Christianity 259 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Christianity 256 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:34
Re: Christianity 250 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 14:44
Re: Christianity 257 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 04:58
Very dangerous 252 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:57
Re: Christianity 248 Nolondil 27-Aug-19 16:57
Re: Why pretend? 279 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 16:39
Pangenesis 249 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Pangenesis 256 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:22
Re: Pangenesis 256 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Pangenesis 248 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Pangenesis 255 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:13
Re: Pangenesis 202 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:21
Re: Pangenesis 254 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:11
I already explained it, 265 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:31
Re: I already explained it, 253 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:13
If 247 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 09:42
Re: If 246 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:01
Re: If 234 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 11:34
Re: If 256 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:23
Descartes and Elizabeth 271 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 07:08
Re: I already explained it, 277 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:10
Re: I already explained it, 264 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:21
Re: I already explained it, 200 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:30
No straddling 204 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 06:04
Re: No straddling 197 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:10
Re: Pangenesis 264 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Pangenesis 251 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:08
Re: Pangenesis 253 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:37
Reason for posting 252 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Reason for posting 250 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:44
Where did all the stuff come from? 238 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 21:53
Re: Where did all the stuff come from? 258 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 04:50
Are you sure 261 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:47
Re: Are you sure 252 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why pretend? 196 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:44
Re: Why pretend? 252 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Why pretend? 262 cloister 26-Aug-19 06:42
Re: Why pretend? 252 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:56
Re: Why pretend? 258 cloister 26-Aug-19 08:18
Re: Why pretend? 247 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:00
Re: Why pretend? 275 cloister 26-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Why pretend? 256 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 15:19
Re: Why pretend? 288 cloister 26-Aug-19 18:47
Re: Why pretend? 254 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:27
Re: Why pretend? 243 cloister 27-Aug-19 05:29
Re: Why pretend? 228 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:24
Re: Why pretend? 254 cloister 27-Aug-19 07:17
Re: Why pretend? 256 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:31
Re: Why pretend? 258 cloister 27-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 247 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:45
Re: Why pretend? 260 cloister 27-Aug-19 11:30
Re: Why pretend? 247 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why pretend? 242 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:00
Re: Why pretend? 262 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 15:45
Re: Why pretend? 238 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 17:55
Re: Why pretend? 251 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Why pretend? 272 cloister 27-Aug-19 19:33
Re: Why pretend? 246 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Why pretend? 276 cloister 28-Aug-19 07:11
Re: Why pretend? 244 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 08:35
Re: Why pretend? 266 cloister 28-Aug-19 11:00
Re: Why pretend? 240 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Why pretend? 249 cloister 28-Aug-19 13:38
Re: Why pretend? 252 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Why pretend? 246 cloister 28-Aug-19 16:11
Re: Why pretend? 237 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:15
saying "don't know." 238 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:27
Re: saying "don't know." 246 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:47
Trapped 249 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:00
Re: Trapped 249 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:07
Congratulations 254 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:31
Re: Congratulations 239 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:07
Every once in awhile 251 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Every once in awhile 243 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 20:39
When you comment about science 255 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 01:30
Re: When you comment about science 244 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 05:06
Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 243 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 06:17
Re: Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 248 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 07:00
No room for arrogance in science or spirit 253 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 07:38
Re: No room for arrogance in science or spirit 235 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 10:15
Unlucky number 13 266 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Unlucky number 13 244 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 13:45
Unknown possibilities 246 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:19
Re: Unknown possibilities 252 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:11
Re: Unknown possibilities 255 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 17:00
Re: Why pretend? 252 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 13:17
Natural law 249 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Natural law 253 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 14:37
Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 262 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 262 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 01:52
No chance! 255 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 03:50
Re: No chance! 267 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 08:03
Re: No chance! 243 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 13:30
Re: No chance! 253 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:29
Dreams----crucial or not? 194 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:12
Re: No chance! 253 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 22:29
Re: No chance! 197 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:03
Well done 250 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 13:54
Re: Well done 244 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:44
Not so easy to dismiss 237 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:20
Re: Not so easy to dismiss 242 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:10
What you call "patronizing' 242 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 18:58
differences of perspective, but . . . 241 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:04
Re: Why pretend? 243 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 21:50
Re: Why pretend? 256 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 00:05
Re: Why pretend? 242 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 03:56
Re: Why pretend? 240 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 04:30
Re: Why pretend? 235 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Why pretend? 239 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 03:36
Re: Why pretend? 242 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 04:58
Re: Why pretend? 249 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:34
Re: Why pretend? 252 Jrevans 27-Aug-19 15:54
There are other possibilities 250 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 17:19
Re: There are other possibilities 252 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 18:10
Big difference 244 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 19:26
Re: Big difference 251 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:45
Who made nothing? 241 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 02:05
Re: Why pretend? 237 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:21
Blew by you 246 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:16
Nope 247 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 02:04
Re: Why pretend? 249 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 255 GramPong 23-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 261 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 00:58
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 255 GramPong 24-Aug-19 17:02
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 250 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 267 GramPong 24-Aug-19 21:35
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 268 jazzmumbles 25-Aug-19 01:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 248 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 05:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 271 jazzmumbles 28-Aug-19 01:13
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 238 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:53
Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 237 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 08:13
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 252 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:07
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 239 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 22:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 268 rkmcquillen 26-Aug-19 20:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 246 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:41
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 256 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 236 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 21:55
Don't forget the oral traditions of indigenous tribes.... 257 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 19:32
Mod Note > Topic Moved 282 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Aug-19 15:54
Great start 276 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 17:11
Re: Great start 263 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Great start 252 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:37
Re: Great start 282 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 01:25
Patterns of Evidence 252 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:37
Re: Great start 254 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Great start 256 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Great start 255 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:34
Re: Great start 257 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:43
Re: Great start 242 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:51
Let's help James explore 247 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 13:15
Re: Let's help James explore 256 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:24
Re: Let's help James explore 244 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:32
Re: Let's help James explore 252 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 16:19
Re: Let's help James explore 257 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:03
Re: Let's help James explore 254 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:23
More detail 253 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 18:31
interesting history 271 grangram 26-Aug-19 19:33
Re: interesting history 242 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:17
Re: interesting history 262 grangram 26-Aug-19 23:38
How about Noah's Ark 247 grangram 26-Aug-19 20:40
Re: How about Noah's Ark 248 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:38
Thanks 250 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:20
Rohl and the tower of babel? 251 grangram 28-Aug-19 09:51
Gabrieli oldstyle 228 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:18
Sometimes words get in the way 275 grangram 03-Sep-19 06:02
Finally watched both of them 228 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 07:44
Noah's Ark 298 grangram 12-Sep-19 09:19
Re: Let's help James explore 252 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 16:39
Re: Let's help James explore 261 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:22
Re: Let's help James explore 250 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Let's help James explore 243 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:58
Re: Let's help James explore 251 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 19:22
Re: Let's help James explore 253 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Let's help James explore 245 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 11:32
Re: Let's help James explore 254 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 13:01
Quality and Sensitivity 254 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 269 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 15:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 261 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 245 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 16:40
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 244 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 16:59
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 249 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:14
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 261 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 263 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 256 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 258 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 261 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:53
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 244 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:02
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 277 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 18:16
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 282 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 17:57
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 271 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:06
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 237 shando 02-Sep-19 12:16
I'm not a teacher 275 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 06:58
Re: I'm not a teacher 274 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 14:28
Re: I'm not a teacher 234 shando 02-Sep-19 12:21
Re: Great start 193 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:40
Re: Great start 301 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 259 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 12:42
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 269 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 269 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 273 Jrevans 30-Aug-19 12:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 259 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 21:00
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 246 shando 02-Sep-19 18:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 261 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 05:17
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 284 Susan Doris 04-Mar-20 06:42
Salvation - another myth 269 Richard Fusniak 23-Oct-19 13:24
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 220 SandyJesse 01-Nov-19 22:27
Susan's thread--"from jrevans" 257 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 20:57
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 254 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Sep-19 21:25
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 245 Mayavitch 10-Oct-19 20:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 232 rulebook54 19-Oct-19 15:52


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