Since you are learning all the time, what have you learned about the start of the universe? You reckon to Ray that no god/consciousness created it but ask him where all the stuff came from.
Yes, explain that, since you reckon Ray can't.

GG.



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Susan, you are not here either to learn or
> change your indoctrinated views! Sad? Who cares.
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> I learn all the time and constantly widen my
> understanding of people, life, the univers and
> everything. And - here it is for the zillionth
> time!! - as soon as one objective piece of
> evidence flashes around the world that an
> apparently mystical experience defies every single
> other probable or possible explanation and,
> amazingly, turns out to be factual, I too will add
> it to my list of knowledge. It ain't gonna
> happen!!
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> Susan