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Susan,

Your comment here has me curious.

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This is a 100% fantasy world you are depicting. The real world has its falts but it is a very good place when you see it and the human species for what it and we are.

I confess I do not understand how you sort things into this "real world", "fantasy world", and everything else (for me, I simply have awarenesses of varying duration, source, and recurrence; so your way looks overly complicated to me). I'll give you some things that I consider part of the "real world" and you tell me which category they fall.

1. Is my love for my wife part of your "real world", "fantasy world", or something else to be declared now, deus ex machina? From my perspective, all you can see are my actions, NOT my love. I would think that should qualify as a fantasy for you.

2. What is your status on my relationship with my wife? Why should there be any particular reason we continue living together or even speaking, other than randomness or "fantasy"? Is the only reason we keep running into each other is we happen to share a "fantasy world" that we somehow mistakenly have the "real world" reflect?

3. How about the internal cringe that happens whenever I hear Anita Ward sing Ring My Bell? How do you account for what people like or not in your "real world"?

From my perspective, your "real world" and "fantasy world" dichotomy is false in many ways. I see both as simply different types of manifestations of the same underlying Source. Your perspective makes no sense to me, so I'm asking you to explain.

Pretty please explain so I can understand you?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 23-Aug-19 23:17 by GramPong.

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Why can't religion and science both be right? 2331 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 20:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 254 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 234 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 229 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 22:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 228 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:25
Propaganda or Egotism..... 239 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 23:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 241 Jrevans 22-Aug-19 23:19
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 231 Eddie Larry 22-Aug-19 23:27
Mod Note > Threaded vs. Flat View 234 Dr. Troglodyte 22-Aug-19 23:55
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 226 rkmcquillen 23-Aug-19 03:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 216 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 12:48
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 216 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 213 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 14:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 224 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 216 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 213 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 15:26
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 218 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 15:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 210 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 209 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 213 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 16:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 222 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 223 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:05
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 220 Eddie Larry 23-Aug-19 18:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 208 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 207 Eddie Larry 24-Aug-19 13:57
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 199 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 217 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:30
Share your knowhow!!! 212 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:44
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 220 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:07
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 205 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 17:37
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 206 Susan Doris 23-Aug-19 17:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 215 Itatw70s 23-Aug-19 18:23
The universe is not mysterious 209 greengirl5 23-Aug-19 23:27
Science vs.God? 223 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:53
Here we go again 220 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Here we go again 218 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:28
Why pretend? 219 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:28
Re: Why pretend? 210 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 21:04
Re: Why pretend? 207 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 21:39
Re: Why pretend? 211 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 22:09
Re: Why pretend? 220 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 22:59
Re: Why pretend? 206 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 00:48
Re: Why pretend? 222 Itatw70s 27-Aug-19 00:42
Re: Why pretend? 203 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:17
Re: Why pretend? 206 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:40
Re: Why pretend? 190 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 08:16
Re: Why pretend? 200 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 09:47
Re: Why pretend? 211 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 09:59
Re: Why pretend? 199 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 196 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 10:16
Re: Why pretend? 221 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:43
How many NASA engineers 220 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:28
Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 209 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:36
Re: Lots of scientists and engineers at JPL and CalTech 210 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:50
Show respect 217 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:22
a Re: Show respect 213 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 12:54
Seeing faults in one self 205 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:02
Christianity 211 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 12:10
Re: Christianity 217 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 13:00
Re: Christianity 222 Richard Fusniak 26-Aug-19 22:32
Re: Christianity 211 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:02
Re: Christianity 204 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Christianity 214 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 23:16
Re: Christianity 210 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Christianity 205 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:13
Re: Christianity 212 Richard Fusniak 28-Aug-19 21:54
Re: Christianity 207 Jrevans 28-Aug-19 22:40
Re: Christianity 217 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:05
Re: Christianity 214 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 12:13
Re: Christianity 198 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 13:16
Re: Christianity 205 greengirl5 01-Sep-19 14:23
Re: Christianity 205 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 14:37
Re: Christianity 207 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:21
Re: Christianity 212 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 15:37
Re: Christianity 216 Jrevans 01-Sep-19 15:43
Re: Christianity 203 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:50
NONSENSE 221 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 23:04
Re: NONSENSE 203 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 05:32
Normal (in science/math) 213 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 06:25
Re: Normal (in science/math) 198 shando 02-Sep-19 11:36
Re: Normal (in science/math) 200 Susan Doris 02-Sep-19 12:37
Re: Christianity 201 Eddie Larry 01-Sep-19 23:51
Re: Christianity and the supernormal 206 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:51
Re: Christianity 207 Susan Doris 01-Sep-19 15:45
Re: Christianity 198 Eddie Larry 02-Sep-19 04:44
Science, spiritualism, and evangelical atheism 206 drrayeye 01-Sep-19 15:52
Paranormal boards and debunking 174 greengirl5 02-Sep-19 00:44
Re: Christianity 210 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:58
Re: Christianity 205 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 02:16
A basic human right.... 144 Itatw70s 02-Nov-19 23:59
Re: Christianity 199 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:02
Re: Christianity 199 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:34
Re: Christianity 200 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 14:44
Re: Christianity 199 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 04:58
Very dangerous 199 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:57
Re: Christianity 184 Nolondil 27-Aug-19 16:57
Re: Why pretend? 220 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 16:39
Pangenesis 196 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 17:48
Re: Pangenesis 197 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:22
Re: Pangenesis 197 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Pangenesis 192 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:05
Re: Pangenesis 201 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:13
Re: Pangenesis 146 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:21
Re: Pangenesis 202 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 05:11
I already explained it, 208 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 06:31
Re: I already explained it, 190 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:13
If 190 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 09:42
Re: If 195 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:01
Re: If 179 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 11:34
Re: If 193 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:23
Descartes and Elizabeth 200 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 07:08
Re: I already explained it, 205 Richard Fusniak 30-Aug-19 20:10
Re: I already explained it, 206 Eddie Larry 30-Aug-19 23:21
Re: I already explained it, 148 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 00:30
No straddling 150 drrayeye 03-Nov-19 06:04
Re: No straddling 141 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:10
Re: Pangenesis 204 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:50
Re: Pangenesis 198 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:08
Re: Pangenesis 194 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 23:37
Reason for posting 196 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Reason for posting 189 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:44
Where did all the stuff come from? 182 greengirl5 27-Aug-19 21:53
Re: Where did all the stuff come from? 208 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 04:50
Are you sure 200 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 11:47
Re: Are you sure 197 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 11:52
Re: Why pretend? 139 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 19:44
Re: Why pretend? 190 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Why pretend? 208 cloister 26-Aug-19 06:42
Re: Why pretend? 198 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 07:56
Re: Why pretend? 206 cloister 26-Aug-19 08:18
Re: Why pretend? 193 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:00
Re: Why pretend? 213 cloister 26-Aug-19 15:06
Re: Why pretend? 197 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 15:19
Re: Why pretend? 228 cloister 26-Aug-19 18:47
Re: Why pretend? 197 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:27
Re: Why pretend? 186 cloister 27-Aug-19 05:29
Re: Why pretend? 176 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:24
Re: Why pretend? 197 cloister 27-Aug-19 07:17
Re: Why pretend? 190 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 07:31
Re: Why pretend? 205 cloister 27-Aug-19 10:04
Re: Why pretend? 192 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 10:45
Re: Why pretend? 201 cloister 27-Aug-19 11:30
Re: Why pretend? 191 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Why pretend? 188 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 15:00
Re: Why pretend? 210 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 15:45
Re: Why pretend? 186 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 17:55
Re: Why pretend? 193 Corpuscles 27-Aug-19 18:26
Re: Why pretend? 214 cloister 27-Aug-19 19:33
Re: Why pretend? 190 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Why pretend? 216 cloister 28-Aug-19 07:11
Re: Why pretend? 190 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 08:35
Re: Why pretend? 205 cloister 28-Aug-19 11:00
Re: Why pretend? 190 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Why pretend? 191 cloister 28-Aug-19 13:38
Re: Why pretend? 195 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Why pretend? 194 cloister 28-Aug-19 16:11
Re: Why pretend? 181 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:15
saying "don't know." 184 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:27
Re: saying "don't know." 189 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 16:47
Trapped 193 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:00
Re: Trapped 197 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:07
Congratulations 201 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:31
Re: Congratulations 183 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:07
Every once in awhile 194 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 19:52
Re: Every once in awhile 187 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 20:39
When you comment about science 193 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 01:30
Re: When you comment about science 184 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 05:06
Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 184 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 06:17
Re: Almost everyone who posts at GHMB 185 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 07:00
No room for arrogance in science or spirit 196 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 07:38
Re: No room for arrogance in science or spirit 177 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 10:15
Unlucky number 13 211 drrayeye 29-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Unlucky number 13 188 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 13:45
Unknown possibilities 193 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:19
Re: Unknown possibilities 201 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:11
Re: Unknown possibilities 191 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 17:00
Re: Why pretend? 190 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 13:17
Natural law 192 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Natural law 189 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 14:37
Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 200 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 23:48
Re: Pantheisim or Pan- en -theism? 200 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 01:52
No chance! 195 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 03:50
Re: No chance! 200 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 08:03
Re: No chance! 183 greengirl5 29-Aug-19 13:30
Re: No chance! 193 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:29
Dreams----crucial or not? 139 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:12
Re: No chance! 201 Corpuscles 29-Aug-19 22:29
Re: No chance! 140 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:03
Well done 197 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 13:54
Re: Well done 184 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 15:44
Not so easy to dismiss 178 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 16:20
Re: Not so easy to dismiss 187 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 18:10
What you call "patronizing' 182 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 18:58
differences of perspective, but . . . 184 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:04
Re: Why pretend? 188 Eddie Larry 27-Aug-19 21:50
Re: Why pretend? 197 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 00:05
Re: Why pretend? 186 Eddie Larry 28-Aug-19 03:56
Re: Why pretend? 185 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 04:30
Re: Why pretend? 181 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 05:01
Re: Why pretend? 186 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 03:36
Re: Why pretend? 186 Corpuscles 28-Aug-19 04:58
Re: Why pretend? 196 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:34
Re: Why pretend? 196 Jrevans 27-Aug-19 15:54
There are other possibilities 196 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 17:19
Re: There are other possibilities 196 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 18:10
Big difference 189 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 19:26
Re: Big difference 195 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:45
Who made nothing? 185 greengirl5 28-Aug-19 02:05
Re: Why pretend? 187 Susan Doris 27-Aug-19 06:21
Blew by you 191 drrayeye 27-Aug-19 20:16
Nope 189 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 02:04
Re: Why pretend? 191 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 199 GramPong 23-Aug-19 20:23
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 207 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 00:58
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 196 GramPong 24-Aug-19 17:02
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 194 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 206 GramPong 24-Aug-19 21:35
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 200 jazzmumbles 25-Aug-19 01:36
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 192 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 05:59
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 197 jazzmumbles 28-Aug-19 01:13
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 179 Susan Doris 28-Aug-19 06:53
Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 183 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 08:13
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 198 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 10:07
Re: Music is for survival and love is a chemical! 184 greengirl5 26-Aug-19 22:45
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 196 rkmcquillen 26-Aug-19 20:20
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 190 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 20:41
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 196 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:31
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 181 Jrevans 26-Aug-19 21:55
Don't forget the oral traditions of indigenous tribes.... 201 Itatw70s 25-Aug-19 19:32
Mod Note > Topic Moved 225 Dr. Troglodyte 23-Aug-19 15:54
Great start 220 drrayeye 23-Aug-19 17:11
Re: Great start 206 Jrevans 23-Aug-19 18:01
Re: Great start 198 Itatw70s 24-Aug-19 00:37
Re: Great start 216 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 01:25
Patterns of Evidence 201 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 03:37
Re: Great start 197 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 06:26
Re: Great start 200 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:11
Re: Great start 197 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:34
Re: Great start 197 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:43
Re: Great start 191 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:51
Let's help James explore 191 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 13:15
Re: Let's help James explore 200 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 13:24
Re: Let's help James explore 188 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:32
Re: Let's help James explore 193 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 16:19
Re: Let's help James explore 201 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:03
Re: Let's help James explore 196 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:23
More detail 195 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 18:31
interesting history 219 grangram 26-Aug-19 19:33
Re: interesting history 184 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:17
Re: interesting history 205 grangram 26-Aug-19 23:38
How about Noah's Ark 195 grangram 26-Aug-19 20:40
Re: How about Noah's Ark 188 Susan Doris 26-Aug-19 21:38
Thanks 194 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 23:20
Rohl and the tower of babel? 196 grangram 28-Aug-19 09:51
Gabrieli oldstyle 173 drrayeye 28-Aug-19 14:18
Sometimes words get in the way 215 grangram 03-Sep-19 06:02
Finally watched both of them 174 drrayeye 12-Sep-19 07:44
Noah's Ark 235 grangram 12-Sep-19 09:19
Re: Let's help James explore 195 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 16:39
Re: Let's help James explore 202 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 17:22
Re: Let's help James explore 198 Jrevans 24-Aug-19 17:36
Re: Let's help James explore 188 Susan Doris 24-Aug-19 17:58
Re: Let's help James explore 197 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 19:22
Re: Let's help James explore 193 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 06:06
Re: Let's help James explore 189 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 11:32
Re: Let's help James explore 189 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 13:01
Quality and Sensitivity 201 drrayeye 25-Aug-19 15:04
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 207 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 15:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 206 Eddie Larry 25-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 190 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 16:40
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 188 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 16:59
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 194 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:14
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 206 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 210 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:51
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 200 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 16:43
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 201 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 17:45
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 204 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 17:53
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 191 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:02
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 217 PB Bytes 25-Aug-19 18:16
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 220 Jrevans 25-Aug-19 17:57
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 211 Susan Doris 25-Aug-19 18:06
Re: Quality and Sensitivity 179 shando 02-Sep-19 12:16
I'm not a teacher 221 drrayeye 26-Aug-19 06:58
Re: I'm not a teacher 220 Eddie Larry 26-Aug-19 14:28
Re: I'm not a teacher 179 shando 02-Sep-19 12:21
Re: Great start 133 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 20:40
Re: Great start 244 drrayeye 24-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 202 Susan Doris 29-Aug-19 12:42
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 211 Jrevans 29-Aug-19 21:43
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 213 Susan Doris 30-Aug-19 07:14
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 212 Jrevans 30-Aug-19 12:15
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 189 Itatw70s 03-Nov-19 21:00
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 190 shando 02-Sep-19 18:04
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 201 Susan Doris 03-Sep-19 05:17
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 163 Susan Doris 04-Mar-20 06:42
Salvation - another myth 186 Richard Fusniak 23-Oct-19 13:24
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 168 SandyJesse 01-Nov-19 22:27
Susan's thread--"from jrevans" 202 drrayeye 02-Sep-19 20:57
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 196 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Sep-19 21:25
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 182 Mayavitch 10-Oct-19 20:33
Re: Why can't religion and science both be right? 165 rulebook54 19-Oct-19 15:52


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