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Re: The lazy way doesn't work
Author: Susan Doris ()
Date: August 10, 2019 05:21AM
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By independently observable, do you mean capable of being observed by multiple people?
Decidedly not, that's a mistake that is made by so many faith believers - the number of people who say they have seen/experienced/etc something does not make it true or objective.
I mean observable - discoverable, detectable, measureable, or whatever - by a person independent of the presence or personal opinion of those making a claim.

Susan

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Re: Musings about God 171 Susan Doris 04-Aug-19 06:59
Thanks 158 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 11:42
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Re: Clarification requested 176 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 14:52
Re: Clarification requested 163 Susan Doris 04-Aug-19 16:46
Re: Clarification requested 174 Itatw70s 04-Aug-19 17:04
That book! 163 greengirl5 04-Aug-19 22:50
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Re: Musings about God 161 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 09:01
Re: Musings about God 162 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 11:20
Re: Musings about God 166 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 13:18
Re: Musings about God 162 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 18:19
Re: Musings about God 163 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 05:50
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Re: atheism 154 GramPong 08-Aug-19 12:20
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A Christian God, a Muslim God etc. 148 greengirl5 08-Aug-19 22:11
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Re: God is not a "he" 156 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 22:56
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Real God 148 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 08:55
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Re: Real God 155 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 15:40
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Common Experience 163 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 17:27
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Been studied in great detail 162 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 23:15
Re: Been studied in great detail 159 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Real God 144 GramPong 10-Aug-19 12:07
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Sin 152 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 13:32
Re: Sin 162 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:21
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Re: Sin 147 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Sin 154 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 16:24
Re: Sin 151 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 16:54
Re: Sin 161 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 17:50
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Re: The trouble with the Christian religion 161 GramPong 10-Aug-19 13:58
Burning in hell 159 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 23:39
Re: Burning in hell 150 GramPong 11-Aug-19 00:08
Who? 145 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:33
Re: Who? 175 GramPong 11-Aug-19 00:57
Re: Who? 165 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 07:03
Re: Real God 166 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:16
Re: Real God 152 Itatw70s 10-Aug-19 21:19
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Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 160 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 11:28
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 165 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 166 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 15:27
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 169 Eddie Larry 05-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 158 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 16:46
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 159 Eddie Larry 05-Aug-19 18:49
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Re: Prayers.... 177 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 21:24
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Re: Is Gerda basically correct? 170 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 14:25
Re: Is Gerda basically correct? 158 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 15:02
Re: Is Gerda basically correct? 166 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 16:54
Who said what? 165 greengirl5 05-Aug-19 22:40
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Re: God and religion 163 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 06:03
Re: God and religion 148 drrayeye 06-Aug-19 06:32
Re: God and religion 152 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 07:03
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Re: God and religion 158 Susan Doris 08-Aug-19 15:58
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Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 154 GramPong 09-Aug-19 01:28
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 135 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 11:28
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 159 GramPong 09-Aug-19 12:08
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 156 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 14:10
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 154 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 22:36
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Re: verified? by whom? 150 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 09:44
The lazy way doesn't work 131 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 15:18
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 149 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 15:50
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 152 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 16:46
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 138 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 22:04
Re: The crazy way doesn't work!!! 182 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 22:49
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 155 Eddie Larry 09-Aug-19 16:55
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 151 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 22:10
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 141 Eddie Larry 09-Aug-19 22:18
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 152 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 23:03
Science 149 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 23:41
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 155 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:21
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 150 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 05:47
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 155 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 09:02
Spiitual blindness 149 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 12:52
Spiritual blindness 146 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Spiitual blindness 146 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:27
Re: Spiitual blindness 142 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 16:09
Re: Spiitual blindness 147 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 17:03
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Posting frequency 147 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 22:48
Re: Posting frequency 147 GramPong 10-Aug-19 23:17
Re: Posting frequency 146 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 08:17
Re: Posting frequency 146 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 09:02
Re: Posting frequency 144 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 09:41
Re: Posting frequency 152 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 12:58
Re: Posting frequency 136 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 13:02
Re: Posting frequency 150 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 22:05
Re: Posting frequency 155 Itatw70s 11-Aug-19 23:15
How about 158 drrayeye 12-Aug-19 03:45
Re: Posting frequency 150 Susan Doris 12-Aug-19 05:10
Agreed, but 140 drrayeye 12-Aug-19 08:10
Re: Agreed, but 141 greengirl5 12-Aug-19 23:13
Trusting or not what we read 136 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 00:21
Re: Trusting or not what we read 144 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Trusting or not what we read 142 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 07:15
Re: Trusting or not what we read 139 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 09:10
Re: Trusting or not what we read 144 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 12:35
Re: Trusting or not what we read 143 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:31
Re: Trusting or not what we read 143 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:00
Re: Trusting or not what we read 138 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 12:58
Re: Trusting or not what we read 145 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 22:31
Re: Trusting or not what we read 160 Susan Doris 12-Aug-19 14:39
Re: Trusting or not what we read 148 greengirl5 12-Aug-19 23:28
Re: Trusting or not what we read 141 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 05:14
Doing her homework? 139 drrayeye 13-Aug-19 05:42
Re: Doing her homework? 149 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:32
Re: Doing her homework? 138 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Doing her homework? 262 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 22:53
Re: Trusting or not what we read 135 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:29
Re: Trusting or not what we read 152 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 14:34
Re: Trusting or not what we read 145 GramPong 10-Aug-19 12:21
Belief vs. Way 155 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 14:04
Re: Belief vs. Way 151 GramPong 11-Aug-19 12:05
Re: Trusting or not what we read 146 Itatw70s 10-Aug-19 22:03
Re: Musings about God 194 jazzmumbles 05-Aug-19 00:53
Re: Musings about God 171 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Musings about God 188 jazzmumbles 05-Aug-19 12:59
Re: Musings about God 172 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Musings about God 195 jazzmumbles 07-Aug-19 01:17
Re: Musings about God 193 ray wakila 05-Aug-19 01:26
Re: Musings about God 182 Itatw70s 07-Aug-19 11:56
Re: Musings about God 187 Itatw70s 07-Aug-19 15:21
Re: Musings about God 178 Enigcom 08-Aug-19 12:05
Re: Musings about God 155 Itatw70s 11-Aug-19 20:39
Re: Musings about God 146 Archaic 13-Aug-19 13:14
Re: Musings about God 154 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 14:37
Re: Musings about God 162 Archaic 13-Aug-19 16:23


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