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I'm asking in earnestness. I don't get that desire to have others conform to my will. I recognize that others have that desire, and I see many of its effects, but I don't understand it.

The best I've been able to figure out is that somehow people see forcing others to do things get them what they want. While I question why they want some of those things, the inescapable conclusion is that they would get MORE of whatever they want by spending their efforts among the willing than trying to force their way against the resistant. From my standpoint, it's all a matter of opportunity cost and marginal benefit/marginal cost. Even if a person can't understand how that is HARMFUL, I don't understand why they can't see that it's provably INEFFICIENT!

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Musings about God 1634 drrayeye 03-Aug-19 15:13
Re: Musings about God 178 Susan Doris 03-Aug-19 15:36
Re: Musings about God 178 Eddie Larry 03-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Musings about God 198 drrayeye 03-Aug-19 17:19
Re: Musings about God 179 Eddie Larry 03-Aug-19 20:03
Re: Musings about God 180 drrayeye 03-Aug-19 20:30
Re: Musings about God 162 Eddie Larry 03-Aug-19 20:44
Re: Musings about God 187 Itatw70s 03-Aug-19 21:00
Re: Musings about God 171 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 00:54
Re: Musings about God 163 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 01:12
Re: Musings about God 176 Eddie Larry 04-Aug-19 03:08
Re: Musings about God 164 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 03:25
The view from Science Mountain, partly cloudy, chance of rain. 160 Eddie Larry 04-Aug-19 17:24
Re: Musings about God 190 Naveen 03-Aug-19 21:29
Re: Musings about God 171 drrayeye 03-Aug-19 23:46
Re: Musings about God 174 Naveen 04-Aug-19 20:54
Re: Musings about God 163 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 21:04
All is all there is 162 greengirl5 04-Aug-19 07:42
Re: Musings about God 199 Mo 04-Aug-19 03:32
Re: Musings about God 164 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 07:02
Re: Musings about God 170 Itatw70s 04-Aug-19 16:21
Re: Musings about God 164 Eddie Larry 04-Aug-19 19:33
Re: Musings about God 168 Naveen 04-Aug-19 21:08
Re: Musings about God 175 Susan Doris 04-Aug-19 06:59
Thanks 162 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 11:42
Clarification requested 225 eyeofhorus33 04-Aug-19 12:45
Re: Clarification requested 178 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 14:52
Re: Clarification requested 165 Susan Doris 04-Aug-19 16:46
Re: Clarification requested 177 Itatw70s 04-Aug-19 17:04
That book! 165 greengirl5 04-Aug-19 22:50
Re: Musings about God 174 Itatw70s 04-Aug-19 23:30
Re: Musings about God 172 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 23:33
Re: Musings about God 164 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 05:26
Re: Musings about God 163 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 09:01
Re: Musings about God 165 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 11:20
Re: Musings about God 170 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 13:18
Re: Musings about God 166 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 18:19
Re: Musings about God 167 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 05:50
atheism 165 drrayeye 06-Aug-19 06:37
Re: atheism 162 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 11:37
Re: atheism 168 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 12:11
Re: atheism 157 GramPong 08-Aug-19 12:20
Re: atheism 164 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 12:40
Re: atheism 154 GramPong 08-Aug-19 14:23
Re: atheism 168 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 14:37
A Christian God, a Muslim God etc. 153 greengirl5 08-Aug-19 22:11
God is not a "he" 161 greengirl5 08-Aug-19 21:57
Re: God is not a "he" 159 drrayeye 08-Aug-19 22:56
Re: God is not a "he" 152 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 06:37
Real God 152 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 08:55
Re: Real God 171 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 09:41
Re: Real God 160 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 10:55
Re: Real God 162 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 12:24
Re: Real God 165 Eddie Larry 09-Aug-19 13:59
Re: Real God 159 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 15:40
Re: Real God 157 Eddie Larry 09-Aug-19 16:52
Re: Real God and real Jesus 168 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 00:09
Re: Real God and real Jesus 154 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 05:03
Common Experience 165 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 17:27
Re: Real God 157 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 19:45
Been studied in great detail 166 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 23:15
Re: Been studied in great detail 163 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:12
Re: Real God 148 GramPong 10-Aug-19 12:07
The trouble with the Christian religion 163 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 12:29
Sin 157 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 13:32
Re: Sin 168 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:21
Re: Sin 140 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 15:58
Re: Sin 151 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 16:07
Re: Sin 158 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 16:24
Re: Sin 154 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 16:54
Re: Sin 166 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 17:50
Re: Sin 164 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 23:28
Re: Sin 155 Eddie Larry 11-Aug-19 03:35
Re: Sin 147 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 07:20
Re: Sin 164 Eddie Larry 11-Aug-19 14:14
Re: Sin 142 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 21:59
Re: The trouble with the Christian religion 165 GramPong 10-Aug-19 13:58
Burning in hell 163 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 23:39
Re: Burning in hell 153 GramPong 11-Aug-19 00:08
Who? 150 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:33
Re: Who? 179 GramPong 11-Aug-19 00:57
Re: Who? 169 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 07:03
Re: Real God 169 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:16
Re: Real God 157 Itatw70s 10-Aug-19 21:19
Re: Real God 164 GramPong 10-Aug-19 22:59
Growing up.... 165 Itatw70s 11-Aug-19 22:51
Praise God/praise my brain 165 greengirl5 09-Aug-19 23:46
Re: God is not a "he" 162 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 19:06
Re: atheism 159 Enigcom 08-Aug-19 12:20
Trusting one's personal experiences 171 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 07:23
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 160 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 09:10
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 162 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 11:28
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 169 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 13:53
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 170 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 15:27
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 176 Eddie Larry 05-Aug-19 15:28
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 163 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 16:46
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 163 Eddie Larry 05-Aug-19 18:49
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences 169 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 16:06
The natural world and the universe IS God 174 greengirl5 05-Aug-19 22:24
Re: The natural world and the universe IS God 169 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 14:40
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences, the ingested God experience. 168 Itatw70s 05-Aug-19 22:43
Re: Trusting one's personal experiences, the ingested God experience. 161 GramPong 05-Aug-19 23:44
In search of the lost chord 184 grangram 04-Aug-19 12:27
The big electron 178 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 16:07
Prayers.... 183 Itatw70s 04-Aug-19 16:50
Re: Prayers.... 181 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 21:24
Re: Prayers.... 156 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 23:15
Re: Musings about God 176 Enigcom 04-Aug-19 21:14
God and religion 175 greengirl5 04-Aug-19 23:07
Re: God and religion 179 Itatw70s 04-Aug-19 23:15
It is well with my Soul 171 drrayeye 04-Aug-19 23:52
Re: God and religion 172 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 05:33
Religion and Spiritual Development in Childhood 176 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 06:26
Lots of very young children know things they "should not" know 172 greengirl5 05-Aug-19 06:49
Re: Lots of very young children know things they "should not" know 164 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 07:19
Is Gerda basically correct? 170 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 11:47
Re: Is Gerda basically correct? 172 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 14:25
Re: Is Gerda basically correct? 163 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 15:02
Re: Is Gerda basically correct? 171 Susan Doris 05-Aug-19 16:54
Who said what? 169 greengirl5 05-Aug-19 22:40
Who should I believe? 158 greengirl5 05-Aug-19 22:37
Re: God and religion 169 Itatw70s 05-Aug-19 23:36
Re: God and religion 166 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 06:03
Re: God and religion 152 drrayeye 06-Aug-19 06:32
Re: God and religion 158 Susan Doris 06-Aug-19 07:03
No excuse--pure laziness 164 drrayeye 06-Aug-19 07:43
Re: God and religion 156 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 14:55
Re: God and religion 163 Susan Doris 08-Aug-19 15:58
Re: God and religion 160 Itatw70s 08-Aug-19 17:06
Reincarnation has been researched by many 152 greengirl5 08-Aug-19 22:21
Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 157 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 00:05
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 158 GramPong 09-Aug-19 01:28
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 139 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 11:28
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 165 GramPong 09-Aug-19 12:08
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 162 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 14:10
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 158 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 22:36
Re: Come, dance in the moonlight, Susan!!! 148 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 06:54
Re: Reincarnation has been researched by many 152 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 06:47
verified? by whom? 147 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 09:03
Re: verified? by whom? 153 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 09:44
The lazy way doesn't work 136 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 15:18
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 153 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 15:50
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 155 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 16:46
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 143 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 22:04
Re: The crazy way doesn't work!!! 186 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 22:49
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 160 Eddie Larry 09-Aug-19 16:55
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 156 Susan Doris 09-Aug-19 22:10
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 146 Eddie Larry 09-Aug-19 22:18
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 155 Itatw70s 09-Aug-19 23:03
Science 153 drrayeye 09-Aug-19 23:41
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 162 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:21
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 154 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 05:47
Re: The lazy way doesn't work 159 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 09:02
Spiitual blindness 152 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 12:52
Spiritual blindness 151 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 12:56
Re: Spiitual blindness 151 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:27
Re: Spiitual blindness 149 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 16:09
Re: Spiitual blindness 150 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 17:03
Childhood faith 161 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 20:16
Discovering reality 153 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 00:32
Finding what you seek 164 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 00:28
Re: Finding what you seek 149 Itatw70s 10-Aug-19 21:42
Posting frequency 150 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 22:48
Re: Posting frequency 149 GramPong 10-Aug-19 23:17
Re: Posting frequency 152 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 08:17
Re: Posting frequency 150 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 09:02
Re: Posting frequency 147 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 09:41
Re: Posting frequency 155 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 12:58
Re: Posting frequency 141 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 13:02
Re: Posting frequency 153 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 22:05
Re: Posting frequency 159 Itatw70s 11-Aug-19 23:15
How about 163 drrayeye 12-Aug-19 03:45
Re: Posting frequency 157 Susan Doris 12-Aug-19 05:10
Agreed, but 144 drrayeye 12-Aug-19 08:10
Re: Agreed, but 145 greengirl5 12-Aug-19 23:13
Trusting or not what we read 139 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 00:21
Re: Trusting or not what we read 149 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 05:31
Re: Trusting or not what we read 146 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 07:15
Re: Trusting or not what we read 144 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 09:10
Re: Trusting or not what we read 146 greengirl5 10-Aug-19 12:35
Re: Trusting or not what we read 147 Susan Doris 10-Aug-19 15:31
Re: Trusting or not what we read 146 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 00:00
Re: Trusting or not what we read 142 Susan Doris 11-Aug-19 12:58
Re: Trusting or not what we read 149 greengirl5 11-Aug-19 22:31
Re: Trusting or not what we read 164 Susan Doris 12-Aug-19 14:39
Re: Trusting or not what we read 153 greengirl5 12-Aug-19 23:28
Re: Trusting or not what we read 145 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 05:14
Doing her homework? 142 drrayeye 13-Aug-19 05:42
Re: Doing her homework? 152 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:32
Re: Doing her homework? 141 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 14:28
Re: Doing her homework? 265 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 22:53
Re: Trusting or not what we read 138 greengirl5 13-Aug-19 06:29
Re: Trusting or not what we read 155 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 14:34
Re: Trusting or not what we read 147 GramPong 10-Aug-19 12:21
Belief vs. Way 158 drrayeye 10-Aug-19 14:04
Re: Belief vs. Way 155 GramPong 11-Aug-19 12:05
Re: Trusting or not what we read 150 Itatw70s 10-Aug-19 22:03
Re: Musings about God 203 jazzmumbles 05-Aug-19 00:53
Re: Musings about God 174 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 01:44
Re: Musings about God 195 jazzmumbles 05-Aug-19 12:59
Re: Musings about God 176 drrayeye 05-Aug-19 14:53
Re: Musings about God 203 jazzmumbles 07-Aug-19 01:17
Re: Musings about God 197 ray wakila 05-Aug-19 01:26
Re: Musings about God 187 Itatw70s 07-Aug-19 11:56
Re: Musings about God 192 Itatw70s 07-Aug-19 15:21
Re: Musings about God 182 Enigcom 08-Aug-19 12:05
Re: Musings about God 158 Itatw70s 11-Aug-19 20:39
Re: Musings about God 151 Archaic 13-Aug-19 13:14
Re: Musings about God 158 Susan Doris 13-Aug-19 14:37
Re: Musings about God 164 Archaic 13-Aug-19 16:23


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