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I call Susan an "evangelistic" atheist in that she advocates an atheistic POV,
Only if someone asks, or brings up the subject. I discuss it quite a lot with my next-door neighbour and good friend who has never had a belief in something supernatural inculcated into her. I challenge the claims and assertions of believers that experiences they have had could not have originated and been entirely generated by their evolved brains, especially in spaces like this. I do not have a blog, I do not advocate atheism via Face Book, posters, standing on a street corner with megaphone, or entering into public discussions and I've certainly no intention of writing a book about it. Good luck to those who do.
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but she's clearly not a "practicing" atheist. Practicing atheists, like the famous four horsemen (Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett) interact, disagree, and even squabble--just like practicing Christians.
Pleas, please tell me how anyone can practise not believing, ie. practise a lack of belief, in something supernatural!!
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Daniel Dennett even goes to a Christian church on Sunday (his sister is a Congregational minister). He knows why he is not a Christian and he makes good points.
Now here I'm going to quibble a bit. I think the definition of Christian is becoming less rigidly restricted to a belief in the living Christ etc. I might develop that idea later.
And people are not banned from going into places of worship because they do not hold the beliefs held by others there, you know.
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Susan does not have the philosophical background to participate in such discussions. She just "drifted away" from Christianity without ever articulating or discussing specific points of disagreement.
So you keep asserting. That is incorrect and 'drifting' about is not something I do. I take positive action about what I do and those who actually know me would confirm this!
You would probably like your beliefs to go unopposed, but that is not going to happen.
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Susan's supposition
Translation: your supposition that I have such a supposition.
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that her brand of atheism
I do not know, nor have I have ever read or heard of, an atheist who separates atheism into brands.
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is supported by science is simply to quote or paraphrase others rather than draw her own conclusions.
I have never said or supposed that any atheism is supported by science. That is clearly not so, since science relies on facts and Theories which stand scrutiny and simply does not enter into a field where a starting observation is not possible. Neither belief nor non-belief is observable. I am clear that all facts and Theories which are claimned by those in the disciplines of science to be objective are open to challenge and that those that are incomplete come under a general heading of 'all facts unknown at the moment'.
If I quote any established fact or Theory to someone or in a discussion then it is up to the person challenged to provide better and more objective facts to correct me.
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That's because she doesn't have sufficient grounding in science to form her own conclusions.
And I think I'll say here that you appear to lack one area of understanding in science in that you allow 100% faith/subjective ideas to be considered as truth, and promote them in your worship work, even though they are not objective. You have the right to do that as it is not against the law, but it is, without doubt, an entirely faith belief.
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Happy Easter.
The Christian church believes a whole raft of impossible things about this time of year which is sad. The Spring equinox and natural revival of growth etc have been noted and revelled over since way, way before the supposed resurrection of a preacher who lived 2,000 years ago.
Yesterday in town there was quite a large group, obviously from a local non-conformist/evangelical-type church, singing about 'the blood shed for me'. sigh* They had a good trombonist with them though.
I could have joined in - I have a good memory for words, especially of hymns sung over and over for years, and it was a lovely day, but after a short rest on one of the many seats available for ancients like me, continued my walk homewards.

Susan

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Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 1230 drrayeye 17-Apr-19 20:10
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 248 Nolondil 17-Apr-19 21:08
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 199 drrayeye 17-Apr-19 21:49
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 185 Susan Doris 18-Apr-19 16:30
Where are the practicing atheists in the West 182 drrayeye 18-Apr-19 18:44
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 189 Nolondil 19-Apr-19 00:28
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 195 drrayeye 19-Apr-19 04:23
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 180 Susan Doris 19-Apr-19 05:42
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 178 drrayeye 19-Apr-19 12:28
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 180 Susan Doris 20-Apr-19 04:54
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 168 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 07:59
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 164 Susan Doris 20-Apr-19 13:49
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 162 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 14:17
Re: Where are the practicing atheists in the West 165 Susan Doris 20-Apr-19 16:43
In other words 160 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 17:11
Re: In other words 171 PB Bytes 20-Apr-19 17:42
Re: In other words 159 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-19 18:23
Re: In other words 167 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 18:40
Re: In other words 168 PB Bytes 20-Apr-19 19:39
Re: In other words 162 Itatw70s 20-Apr-19 21:50
Re: In other words 162 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 23:39
Re: In other words 157 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 06:14
Real atheists 159 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 05:55
Re: Real atheists 162 Susan Doris 27-Apr-19 10:31
Re: Real atheists 144 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 17:05
Re: In other words 164 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 06:07
Re: In other words 160 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 06:16
Re: In other words 170 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 06:20
Re: In other words 163 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 06:27
Re: In other words 157 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 07:43
Re: In other words 165 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 04:51
Re: In other words 161 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 06:21
Re: In other words 164 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 07:50
Re: In other words 165 Itatw70s 24-Apr-19 23:41
Re: In other words 159 drrayeye 25-Apr-19 00:33
Re: In other words 165 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 04:56
Re: In other words 158 Itatw70s 25-Apr-19 22:40
Re: In other words 163 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 05:28
Re: In other words 160 Itatw70s 26-Apr-19 12:55
Re: In other words 156 Eddie Larry 26-Apr-19 16:19
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 203 eyeofhorus33 17-Apr-19 21:48
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 178 drrayeye 17-Apr-19 22:00
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 184 Itatw70s 18-Apr-19 00:03
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 176 drrayeye 18-Apr-19 00:40
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 173 Susan Doris 18-Apr-19 16:37
Beyond a response to the topic 176 drrayeye 18-Apr-19 17:04
Atheism was forbidden throughout much of history but it quietly co-existed and outlives the long-dead gods. 180 drrayeye 18-Apr-19 17:45
Re: Atheism was forbidden throughout much of history but it quietly co-existed and outlives the long-dead gods. 176 Susan Doris 19-Apr-19 05:50
Lots of evidence for historical, philosophical atheism Ray 166 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 07:41
Re: Lots of evidence for historical, philosophical atheism Ray 168 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 07:54
Good for you 162 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 11:08
Re: Good for you 158 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 12:51
Evangelistic atheism 165 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 15:11
Re: Evangelistic atheism 161 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 17:35
The pagan origins of Easter 167 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 17:44
We're not pagans any more 161 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 19:15
Erm ... 174 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 21:24
Re: Erm ... 159 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 22:17
Re: Erm ... 162 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 23:09
Spirituality of supposed pagans 164 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 00:01
Re: Spirituality of supposed pagans 163 Itatw70s 22-Apr-19 00:09
Re: Spirituality of supposed pagans 169 Susan Doris 22-Apr-19 07:41
Re: We're not pagans any more 156 Itatw70s 25-Apr-19 00:25
Defining atheism 174 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 17:33
Re: Defining atheism 165 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 19:18
Re: Defining atheism 164 Itatw70s 25-Apr-19 22:52
Why Shdeldrake? 154 drrayeye 26-Apr-19 03:30
Re: Why Shdeldrake? 154 Itatw70s 26-Apr-19 13:52
Re: Why Shdeldrake? 164 drrayeye 26-Apr-19 16:47
Re: Why Shdeldrake? 154 Itatw70s 26-Apr-19 18:29
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? 155 Itatw70s 27-Apr-19 00:33
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? 157 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 01:12
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? 161 Itatw70s 27-Apr-19 18:48
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? Ray, personal message. 165 Itatw70s 28-Apr-19 00:01
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? Ray, personal message. 159 drrayeye 28-Apr-19 05:48
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? Ray, personal message. 156 Itatw70s 28-Apr-19 16:18
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? Ray, personal message. 150 drrayeye 28-Apr-19 22:27
Re: Why Not Shdeldrake? Ray, personal message. 159 Itatw70s 28-Apr-19 23:48
I'm a dualist 152 drrayeye 29-Apr-19 05:48
Re: I'm a dualist 258 Itatw70s 29-Apr-19 11:50
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 172 PB Bytes 20-Apr-19 16:08
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 165 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-19 20:39
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 160 Itatw70s 20-Apr-19 22:00
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 158 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-19 22:06
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 160 Itatw70s 20-Apr-19 22:40
The Jesus narrative 167 PB Bytes 21-Apr-19 15:57
Re: The Jesus narrative 162 Eddie Larry 21-Apr-19 16:38
Re: The Jesus narrative 164 PB Bytes 21-Apr-19 19:47
Re: The Jesus narrative 154 Eddie Larry 21-Apr-19 19:56
Re: The Jesus narrative 163 PB Bytes 21-Apr-19 20:38
It isn't unique 182 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 19:16
again 167 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 19:24
Yes and no, Ray 183 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 19:41
Re: Yes and no, Ray 157 PB Bytes 21-Apr-19 19:57
Re: Yes and no, Ray 167 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 21:46
Re: Yes and no, Ray 160 Eddie Larry 22-Apr-19 01:18
Re: It isn't unique 159 PB Bytes 21-Apr-19 19:52
Re: The Jesus narrative 160 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 20:01
Re: The Jesus narrative 157 PB Bytes 21-Apr-19 20:35
Re: The Jesus narrative 158 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 21:13
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? - No 177 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-19 15:03
Read the OP 172 drrayeye 18-Apr-19 15:20
Re: Read the OP 179 Eddie Larry 18-Apr-19 16:18
The evidence and the claim 178 drrayeye 18-Apr-19 16:52
Re: The evidence and the claim 176 Itatw70s 18-Apr-19 23:30
Re: Ethnic distinctions 178 Nolondil 19-Apr-19 00:24
Re: Ethnic distinctions 182 Itatw70s 19-Apr-19 16:36
The blue spheres? 175 grangram 19-Apr-19 10:31
The conversation is different 170 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 23:54
Re: The conversation is different 169 Eddie Larry 21-Apr-19 04:04
In my experience 173 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 06:25
Re: In mhy experience 163 Eddie Larry 21-Apr-19 14:52
Re: In my experience 152 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 15:26
Re: In my experience 149 Eddie Larry 21-Apr-19 16:43
no consternation 159 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 19:30
Re: no consternation 154 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 22:32
Purpose of this thread 164 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 23:54
Re: Purpose of this thread 166 Susan Doris 22-Apr-19 07:07
Rupert's suggestion 162 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 11:50
Re: Rupert's suggestion 152 Susan Doris 22-Apr-19 14:25
Not quite 158 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 16:04
Re: Not quite 160 Susan Doris 22-Apr-19 18:38
self fulfilling prophecies 162 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 23:34
Re: Purpose of this thread 160 Nolondil 22-Apr-19 18:42
Re: Purpose of this thread 162 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 23:30
Rupert's suggestions 162 Itatw70s 25-Apr-19 23:09
That's not what I asked 152 drrayeye 26-Apr-19 03:25
Re: That's not what I asked 165 Itatw70s 26-Apr-19 14:16
Re: That's not what I asked 155 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 14:57
Re: That's not what I asked 149 Itatw70s 26-Apr-19 17:01
Real atheists 149 drrayeye 26-Apr-19 22:57
Re: Real atheists 153 Susan Doris 27-Apr-19 05:08
There must be 50 ways 152 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 06:40
Re: There must be 50 ways 157 Susan Doris 27-Apr-19 10:35
Re: That's not what I asked 156 drrayeye 26-Apr-19 16:51
Re: no consternation 165 Eddie Larry 22-Apr-19 23:36
Re: no consternation 155 Susan Doris 23-Apr-19 05:15
Re: no consternation 155 drrayeye 23-Apr-19 12:33
Re: no consternation 154 Susan Doris 23-Apr-19 15:56
My mother 155 drrayeye 23-Apr-19 19:04
Re: My mother 159 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 20:33
Re: My mother 164 drrayeye 23-Apr-19 21:10
Re: My mother 158 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 21:27
Re: My mother 150 drrayeye 24-Apr-19 05:58
'Objective" to a scientist 150 drrayeye 24-Apr-19 10:34
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 155 Susan Doris 24-Apr-19 15:51
Was for Eddie 161 drrayeye 24-Apr-19 18:54
Re: Was for Eddie 153 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 05:10
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 169 Eddie Larry 24-Apr-19 19:55
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 157 drrayeye 25-Apr-19 00:14
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 150 Eddie Larry 25-Apr-19 02:12
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 158 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 05:18
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 158 greengirl5 25-Apr-19 13:33
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 153 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 13:48
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 147 greengirl5 26-Apr-19 06:44
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 152 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 07:03
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 151 greengirl5 26-Apr-19 13:19
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 151 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 15:09
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 155 PB Bytes 26-Apr-19 16:18
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 149 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 17:26
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 166 PB Bytes 26-Apr-19 18:43
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 164 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 16:29
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 157 PB Bytes 26-Apr-19 16:59
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 154 Susan Doris 27-Apr-19 12:38
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 155 PB Bytes 27-Apr-19 13:53
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 144 Eddie Larry 27-Apr-19 14:00
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 152 PB Bytes 27-Apr-19 14:21
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 146 Susan Doris 27-Apr-19 16:46
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 151 Susan Doris 27-Apr-19 17:16
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 152 PB Bytes 27-Apr-19 19:37
Re: 'Objective" to a scientist 154 PB Bytes 27-Apr-19 18:50
This off topic line of thinking 154 drrayeye 26-Apr-19 17:17
Re: This off topic line of thinking 151 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 17:50
lack of belief in a god 147 greengirl5 26-Apr-19 22:57
Einstein and God 151 greengirl5 26-Apr-19 22:45
Where did it go? - Re: Einstein and God 153 greengirl5 27-Apr-19 08:54
Re: My mother 154 Susan Doris 24-Apr-19 05:11
Re: My mother 162 Eddie Larry 25-Apr-19 02:18
Defending science on the science board 155 drrayeye 23-Apr-19 06:46
Re: In my experience 182 Susan Doris 21-Apr-19 17:48
Re: In my experience 170 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 18:14
Re: In my experience 167 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 18:34
No idea what you are talking about 169 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 19:24
Re: No idea what you are talking about 164 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 19:51
My Christian way 161 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 19:37
Your Christian way 175 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-19 21:05
Re: Your Christian way 156 Itatw70s 21-Apr-19 21:42
Re: Your Christian way 169 Susan Doris 22-Apr-19 08:50
Re: Your Christian way 153 greengirl5 25-Apr-19 13:30
Re: Your Christian way 154 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 13:51
Re: Your Christian way 147 greengirl5 25-Apr-19 22:37
An honest answer 173 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 22:44
Re: An honest answer 160 Susan Doris 22-Apr-19 09:10
Easter eggs 160 greengirl5 23-Apr-19 15:20
Re: Easter eggs 167 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 15:33
Re: Easter eggs 158 greengirl5 23-Apr-19 22:34
Re: Easter eggs 162 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 22:43
In other words ... 195 eyeofhorus33 22-Apr-19 18:53
Maybe 171 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 23:19
Re: Maybe 181 Susan Doris 23-Apr-19 05:03
Re: Maybe 154 drrayeye 25-Apr-19 13:53
Re: Maybe 158 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 15:05
What this thread has been about 171 drrayeye 25-Apr-19 17:00
Re: What this thread has been about 174 Susan Doris 25-Apr-19 17:22
Yes - ! Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 229 greengirl5 25-Apr-19 00:17
Re: Are we entering into a post atheistic Age? 173 Susan Doris 26-Apr-19 06:06


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