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Susan,

In the autobiographical narrative I linked, Rupert shows himself early on to be a much more solid atheist than you were in your early years. As a boy, he refused to accept confirmation and join the church,and certainly didn't rock the Darwinian boat as he rose to prominence in biology.

His transformation happened away from Britain--in India--and he described some of his experiences along the way in a very humorous way. I think that he needed to get away to get perspective on his life. If he had grown up as a scientist here, I think things would have been very different--in good ways and bad ways.

I never had to take atheism very seriously, while taking a certain amount of agnosticism for granted. For him, declaring himself a Christian was like a gay person coming out of the closet. I think both Sheldrake and Dawkins have developed personal epistemologies quite similar to each other and most scientists in the United States.

It's taken me a long time to realize that.

It also helps me understand better how you could get so lost.

Ray

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give James some credit 200 drrayeye 11-Apr-19 18:35
Sheldrake is mistaken, it seems ... 216 eyeofhorus33 11-Apr-19 21:05
Listen to his report (toward the end) 186 drrayeye 11-Apr-19 23:05
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Rupert 182 drrayeye 12-Apr-19 17:11
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Entering 165 drrayeye 15-Apr-19 17:43
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Re: Just a dangling conversation 170 Eddie Larry 15-Apr-19 22:42
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You can say 157 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 17:03
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It's not meaningless to me 158 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 17:09
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