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All this is so scientific!
I will just add in my own un-scientific words that there is a "state" many of us have been in from time to time. I don't know if it has a name, probably not.
it is a state wherein you are warned about something dangerous or unpleasant, shortly before it happens. It could also take a bit longer to happen, but it is a forewarning which there seems no reason for, nor any possibility of us knowing it in any other way, than "something tells us". None of the normal senses comes into play. Aha, of course it has a name - the sixth sense! I forgot. It has worked for me several times.
Susan will no doubt put it to either chance or delusion or something else, just to explain it away. Well. You weren't there!
Ray, I don't suppose a scientist would have anything to do with the sixth sense? We have our free will to take notice of and trust the sixth sense warning us, or to reject it and regret it.
What would be your comments to that?
GG.
drrayeye Wrote:
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> Susan,
>
> Being conscious or unconscious are subjective
> states known to all of us. Many have introspected
> about these subjective states: being conscious was
> associated with being awake--and being unconscious
> was associated with being asleep. Many thinkers
> developed general models or theories to explain
> these subjective states. During the late 19th and
> early 20th century, psychiatrists in medicine
> applied some of these insights into practical
> applications that appeared to improve mental
> health.
>
> Beginning in the 19th century, experimental
> scientists began to go beyond simple introspection
> to discover what was going on in these states. To
> carry out truly scientific investigations,
> investigators could only study a small part of
> consciousness, and almost nothing of the
> unconscious. People in the medical field, and
> clinical psychologist felt that subjective reports
> about unconscious experiences--sometimes dream
> reports--were sufficient to improve mental health
> without any truly scientific support.
>
> By now, the clinical approach has come under more
> scrutiny, and the scientific approach has
> broadened. But still, experimental scientific
> cognitive research only investigates a tiny sliver
> of what could be learned about consciousness--and
> an even tinier sliver of what might be learned
> about the unconscious.
>
> Ray
I will just add in my own un-scientific words that there is a "state" many of us have been in from time to time. I don't know if it has a name, probably not.
it is a state wherein you are warned about something dangerous or unpleasant, shortly before it happens. It could also take a bit longer to happen, but it is a forewarning which there seems no reason for, nor any possibility of us knowing it in any other way, than "something tells us". None of the normal senses comes into play. Aha, of course it has a name - the sixth sense! I forgot. It has worked for me several times.
Susan will no doubt put it to either chance or delusion or something else, just to explain it away. Well. You weren't there!
Ray, I don't suppose a scientist would have anything to do with the sixth sense? We have our free will to take notice of and trust the sixth sense warning us, or to reject it and regret it.
What would be your comments to that?
GG.
drrayeye Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Susan,
>
> Being conscious or unconscious are subjective
> states known to all of us. Many have introspected
> about these subjective states: being conscious was
> associated with being awake--and being unconscious
> was associated with being asleep. Many thinkers
> developed general models or theories to explain
> these subjective states. During the late 19th and
> early 20th century, psychiatrists in medicine
> applied some of these insights into practical
> applications that appeared to improve mental
> health.
>
> Beginning in the 19th century, experimental
> scientists began to go beyond simple introspection
> to discover what was going on in these states. To
> carry out truly scientific investigations,
> investigators could only study a small part of
> consciousness, and almost nothing of the
> unconscious. People in the medical field, and
> clinical psychologist felt that subjective reports
> about unconscious experiences--sometimes dream
> reports--were sufficient to improve mental health
> without any truly scientific support.
>
> By now, the clinical approach has come under more
> scrutiny, and the scientific approach has
> broadened. But still, experimental scientific
> cognitive research only investigates a tiny sliver
> of what could be learned about consciousness--and
> an even tinier sliver of what might be learned
> about the unconscious.
>
> Ray
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