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Interesting study.

The pop writer schmalzed it up a bit.

The study shows there are preattentive processes that precede attention longer ahead than the usual milliseconds of most preattentive processes. That's not the same as an unconscious that knows things ahead of consciousness.
thank you. Whatever vocabulary I was using, I was most certainly not thinking that there was an unconscious that knew things before the conscious. It has been my understanding since first hearing about this, that it is the brain acting as it always does, but now it has been discovered that there is this pre-attentive* process.

*I'm surprised the word isn't hyphenated. Snthetic Dave doesn't pronounce it quite properly without it!

Susan

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Free will or not? 1292 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 287 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 252 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 227 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 215 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 213 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 201 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 218 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 192 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 202 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 219 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 231 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 216 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 187 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 227 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 209 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 198 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 198 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 209 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 192 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 197 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 219 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 189 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 222 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 204 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 195 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 208 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 199 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 192 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 207 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 197 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 213 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 202 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 198 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 211 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 233 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 211 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 214 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 203 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 200 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 201 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 190 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 197 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 208 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 195 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 178 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 210 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 193 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 195 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 205 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 203 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 227 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 228 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 195 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 194 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 217 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 208 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 203 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 204 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 196 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 219 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 198 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 224 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 207 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 208 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 191 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 209 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 199 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 206 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 205 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 216 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 186 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 198 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 188 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 205 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 184 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 204 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 190 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 189 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 190 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 202 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 180 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 336 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 199 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 182 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 209 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 188 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 204 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 186 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 159 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 175 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 181 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 205 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 200 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 218 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 217 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 204 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 179 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 193 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 184 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 214 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 186 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 192 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 217 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 180 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 181 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 192 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 199 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 264 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 229 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 244 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 192 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 221 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 194 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 224 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 190 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 218 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 193 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 221 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 203 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 213 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 205 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 207 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 212 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 216 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 207 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 206 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 206 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 239 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 234 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
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Re: Free will or not? 225 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
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