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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.
Actually, the world is not very much a chance thing. If it were, then chaos would reign, since no-one would know what was going to happen ever.
If something happens to us which appears to be random, there will be a back trail of causes which happened to co-incide at that point. We call such a thing, or can consider such a thing to be, random, and it will certainly feel like it, but it is not really so. There are random mutations which cause changes in DNA and so on, but as soon as they have happened, they become part of the determined way of things.
We live in a deterministic universe and that is why there isn't chaos all the time.
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Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
People put forward the idea of some power, but all the knowledge and understanding we have today has always lead away from that and the god-of-the-gaps is fast disappearing - not fast enough for me though!
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Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives.
That makes me feel secure.
I feel more secure since the idea of God vanished from my mind, since I am as sure as I can be that there is no such thing anywhere doing any controlling, or judging, or watching at all. This does not give free reign for everyone to cause mayhem - it is co-operation that works best and, as Eddie Larry has said (either yesterday or today), it is quite likely that aggressive behaviour results from an original need to defend against aggressors. Such would have been an essential trait to perpetuate.
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Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.
There was a book I read ages ago with beautiful pictures on every alternate page of cows, some cartoons, some photos, some paintings etc, and it was called 'The History of the world from the Cow's point of view'. Well, they survived successfully before humans domesticated them, in spite of storms!! Thank goodness since that probably helped our survival.

Susan

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Free will or not? 1292 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 287 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 251 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 227 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 215 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 213 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 200 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 218 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 191 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 202 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 218 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 231 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 216 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 187 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 227 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 209 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 197 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 199 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 197 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 199 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 209 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 192 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 197 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 219 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 189 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 220 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 204 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 195 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 207 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 199 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 192 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 207 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 197 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 212 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 202 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 198 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 211 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 233 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 211 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 214 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 203 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 200 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 190 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 197 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 208 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 194 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 177 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 210 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 191 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 195 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 203 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 227 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 228 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 195 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 193 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 216 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 207 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 203 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 204 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 196 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 219 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 197 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 224 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 206 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 208 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 191 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 209 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 199 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 206 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 205 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 216 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 186 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 197 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 188 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 204 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 183 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 204 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 189 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 189 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 190 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 202 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 180 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 336 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 198 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 182 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 208 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 186 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 204 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 185 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 159 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 175 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 180 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 203 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 199 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 218 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 217 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 204 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 179 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 193 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 183 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 213 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 185 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 192 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 216 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 179 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 181 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 192 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 199 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 264 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 229 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 243 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 192 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 221 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 194 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 222 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 188 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 215 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 193 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 221 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 203 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 204 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 206 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 211 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 215 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 206 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 204 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 206 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 239 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 232 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 221 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 224 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 203 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 203 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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