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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.
Actually, the world is not very much a chance thing. If it were, then chaos would reign, since no-one would know what was going to happen ever.
If something happens to us which appears to be random, there will be a back trail of causes which happened to co-incide at that point. We call such a thing, or can consider such a thing to be, random, and it will certainly feel like it, but it is not really so. There are random mutations which cause changes in DNA and so on, but as soon as they have happened, they become part of the determined way of things.
We live in a deterministic universe and that is why there isn't chaos all the time.
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Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
People put forward the idea of some power, but all the knowledge and understanding we have today has always lead away from that and the god-of-the-gaps is fast disappearing - not fast enough for me though!
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Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives.
That makes me feel secure.
I feel more secure since the idea of God vanished from my mind, since I am as sure as I can be that there is no such thing anywhere doing any controlling, or judging, or watching at all. This does not give free reign for everyone to cause mayhem - it is co-operation that works best and, as Eddie Larry has said (either yesterday or today), it is quite likely that aggressive behaviour results from an original need to defend against aggressors. Such would have been an essential trait to perpetuate.
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Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.
There was a book I read ages ago with beautiful pictures on every alternate page of cows, some cartoons, some photos, some paintings etc, and it was called 'The History of the world from the Cow's point of view'. Well, they survived successfully before humans domesticated them, in spite of storms!! Thank goodness since that probably helped our survival.

Susan

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Free will or not? 1315 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 295 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 260 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 232 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 219 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 220 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 217 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 206 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 224 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 204 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 209 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 221 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 237 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 218 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 192 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 214 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 235 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 215 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 204 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 204 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 210 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 208 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 202 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 223 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 225 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 212 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 215 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 203 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 198 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 209 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 215 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 208 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 206 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 203 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 216 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 237 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 216 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 219 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 205 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 213 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 207 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 204 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 195 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 206 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 214 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 213 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 183 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 217 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 197 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 211 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 207 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 233 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 232 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 220 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 213 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 210 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 219 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 202 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 223 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 201 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 233 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 212 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 214 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 202 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 194 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 213 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 204 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 211 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 209 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 199 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 219 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 190 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 200 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 204 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 214 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 191 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 210 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 194 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 194 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 195 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 207 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 185 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 344 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 202 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 187 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 215 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 194 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 210 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 189 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 164 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 178 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 183 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 208 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 203 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 227 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 222 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 207 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 182 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 196 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 186 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 218 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 191 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 196 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 221 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 184 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 185 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 197 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 205 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 276 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 238 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 259 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 198 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 225 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 196 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 228 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 193 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 255 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 201 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 227 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 205 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 219 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 210 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 214 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 219 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 219 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 211 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 209 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 212 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 249 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 237 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 225 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 229 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 207 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 204 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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