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That is a surprise that you prefer security for randomness.
I would have thought it were the other way, that believers in God got told they had to have something to cling to, even if it was invisible, whereas non-believers were so tough that they did not care what happened. And the world is very much a chance thing.

Now what you are saying here seems to say that believers are more brave, putting their trust in God. But that can also be based on what others have said and told over time, besides own experiences.
Then there are all the synchronicities, which point to a meaning and guidance in our individual lives. That makes me feel secure.

Not that I could not be scared in a terrorist attack, or thunderstorm. It was a beauty of a crack that knocked my telephone out Friday night. Still not back on. Tomorrow, I hope.

Dogs very scared, thinking I, their God, could stop it :). Glad they stay inside. Poor cows.

GG.

Susan Doris Wrote:
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> If you take the trouble to look up what science
> has discovered about how we think, you will find
> that, if you were attached to suitable machinery
> all the time, a part of your brain would show
> action a split second before you
> consciously[//I] thought to get up from the
> chair. I understand that these experiments have
> been repeated and demonstrate predictability. If
> you can find better evidence to the contrary,
> please cite it.
>
> The phrase free will is simply two words put
> together to enable us to talk about what certainly
> feels like deciding completely consciously
> to do something. However, if we had evolved to do
> that, then we would not have survived. Just
> because it has only been detected in recent times
> does not mean that it is wrong. Many things we
> know to be correct are counter-intuitive. And, as
> I have mentioned before, if you want to see a
> never-ending discussion between one really rigid
> mind and ones that are prepared to look for all
> explanations, not just one including a god, then
> go to R&E, Searching for God, and read the last
> ten pages.
> It is far more scary to think that we are acting
> entirely randomly all the time - there lies chaos.
> I like the security ofknowing that my thoughts and
> actions are based on what has already been thought
> and/or what has happened in life.
>
> You are also incorrect in thinking that I have a
> rigid or closed mind. I cant stop you thinking
> that, if that is what you choose to do, but I
> write it down anyway.
>
> Susan
>
>
> greengirl5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do I? - ok, let me try!
> >
> > Do I keep sitting here or get up to do what I
> > "should" be doing? Why should I do something
> else?
> >
> > Because it is on my own list of things to do,
> and
> > if I don't do them, I will have stupid dreams
> at
> > night.
> >
> > I fight with myself all the time, too much to
> do,
> > but I don't want to go to a nursing home either
> > and lose my free will.
> >
> > In the olden days a cigaret made me get up, now
> it
> > is chocolate.
> >
> > So, where is it? Has it got a hold over me? I
> > could have a biscuit in stead of, but had two a
> > little while ago. Take up smoking again? No!
> >
> > Chocolate, dark, good for you it says in many
> > places. I use my free will to decide they are
> > right. The sellers? The makers? Whatever, it
> has
> > done me no harm so far, but only the dark. Not
> too
> > much sugar. My choice, yeh- ! Free will!
> >
> > GG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie Larry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fine, but you still have to come up with an
> > > explanation of free will.

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 1292 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 287 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 251 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 226 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 215 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 213 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 200 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 218 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 191 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 202 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 218 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 230 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 216 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 187 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 211 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 227 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 207 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 197 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 199 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 197 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 199 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 207 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 192 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 219 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 189 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 220 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 204 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 195 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 207 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 199 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 192 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 207 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 197 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 212 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 202 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 198 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 211 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 231 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 210 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 211 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 203 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 199 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 199 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 189 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 197 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 208 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 194 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 176 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 208 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 191 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 195 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 202 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 202 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 227 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 228 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 195 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 193 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 216 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 207 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 203 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 204 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 196 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 219 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 197 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 224 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 206 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 208 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 197 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 191 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 209 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 199 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 206 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 205 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 215 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 185 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 197 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 187 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 204 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 183 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 203 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 189 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 189 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 189 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 202 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 180 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 334 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 198 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 182 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 208 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 186 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 204 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 183 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 158 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 175 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 180 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 203 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 199 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 217 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 217 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 204 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 179 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 193 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 183 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 213 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 185 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 191 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 216 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 178 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 180 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 191 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 199 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 263 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 229 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 242 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 192 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 221 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 193 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 222 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 188 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 213 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 192 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 220 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 203 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 211 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 204 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 206 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 211 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 215 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 206 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 204 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 205 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 238 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 232 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 220 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 224 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 202 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 203 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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