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Something told my brain to tell my legs to get up and walk the dogs. It had stopped raining at last, so we could walk. I also pulled out some prickly weeds before they get to hang on to dogs and humans. They call them Bindy here. There will be heaps more out there.

Now I am back in the armchair. I totally understand people's addictions to their phones. But I would rather be outside when the rain stops. Great to get it, though, in my tank. The only water I have. Raining again, but not much. It is foggy, a spooky day, nearly evening. Nice inside.

The chocolate made me get up. It is good for my digestion anyway, so I do not feel guilty. But for other things, what tells the brain a split second earlier to give orders? Why is it not just the brain? Is there something bigger than the brain?

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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> If you take the trouble to look up what science
> has discovered about how we think, you will find
> that, if you were attached to suitable machinery
> all the time, a part of your brain would show
> action a split second before you
> consciously[//I] thought to get up from the
> chair. I understand that these experiments have
> been repeated and demonstrate predictability. If
> you can find better evidence to the contrary,
> please cite it.
>
> The phrase free will is simply two words put
> together to enable us to talk about what certainly
> feels like deciding completely consciously
> to do something. However, if we had evolved to do
> that, then we would not have survived. Just
> because it has only been detected in recent times
> does not mean that it is wrong. Many things we
> know to be correct are counter-intuitive. And, as
> I have mentioned before, if you want to see a
> never-ending discussion between one really rigid
> mind and ones that are prepared to look for all
> explanations, not just one including a god, then
> go to R&E, Searching for God, and read the last
> ten pages.
> It is far more scary to think that we are acting
> entirely randomly all the time - there lies chaos.
> I like the security ofknowing that my thoughts and
> actions are based on what has already been thought
> and/or what has happened in life.
>
> You are also incorrect in thinking that I have a
> rigid or closed mind. I cant stop you thinking
> that, if that is what you choose to do, but I
> write it down anyway.
>
> Susan
>
>
> greengirl5 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do I? - ok, let me try!
> >
> > Do I keep sitting here or get up to do what I
> > "should" be doing? Why should I do something
> else?
> >
> > Because it is on my own list of things to do,
> and
> > if I don't do them, I will have stupid dreams
> at
> > night.
> >
> > I fight with myself all the time, too much to
> do,
> > but I don't want to go to a nursing home either
> > and lose my free will.
> >
> > In the olden days a cigaret made me get up, now
> it
> > is chocolate.
> >
> > So, where is it? Has it got a hold over me? I
> > could have a biscuit in stead of, but had two a
> > little while ago. Take up smoking again? No!
> >
> > Chocolate, dark, good for you it says in many
> > places. I use my free will to decide they are
> > right. The sellers? The makers? Whatever, it
> has
> > done me no harm so far, but only the dark. Not
> too
> > much sugar. My choice, yeh- ! Free will!
> >
> > GG.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie Larry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fine, but you still have to come up with an
> > > explanation of free will.

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Free will or not? 1315 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 295 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 260 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 233 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 219 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 220 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 217 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 206 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 224 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 204 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 209 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 222 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 238 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 218 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 192 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 215 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 235 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 216 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 205 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 204 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 211 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 209 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 202 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 223 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 226 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 213 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 215 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 203 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 198 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 209 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 216 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 209 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 206 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 204 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 216 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 238 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 216 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 220 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 205 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 214 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 208 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 205 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 195 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 206 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 214 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 213 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 184 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 218 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 212 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 208 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 233 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 232 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 221 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 213 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 210 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 220 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 202 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 223 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 202 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 233 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 212 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 214 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 203 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 194 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 213 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 204 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 211 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 209 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 199 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 220 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 191 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 200 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 205 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 195 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 214 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 193 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 210 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 195 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 194 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 196 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 207 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 185 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 345 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 203 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 189 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 215 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 195 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 210 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 190 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 165 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 178 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 183 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 209 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 203 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 228 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 222 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 207 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 182 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 196 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 187 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 219 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 191 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 196 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 222 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 184 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 186 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 197 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 205 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 277 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 239 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 259 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 198 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 225 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 197 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 229 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 194 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 256 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 202 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 228 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 205 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 219 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 210 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 214 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 219 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 220 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 211 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 209 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 213 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 251 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 237 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 225 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 230 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 208 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 204 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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