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Gerda stated
Something to do with those who stick rigidly to evolution deciding everything. We do such and such because of survival instinct.

The traditional theory of Evolution is not a theory that "decides" or "programs" any thing. The fit for their circumstances live to reproduce and continue their family lines. That's it, it is a general theory that works.

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Gerda stated
Who is sitting in the background cheering us on? Mr/mrs/ms evolution? Mr. Happy accident? A dot called Big Bang?

Have I no say at all?


No one is sitting in the background, There is no Wizard of Oz. In a sense, the TofE does put it all on the individual to be "fit." So you have the say that you have. You seem pretty fit to me!

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Gerda again
Again, it boils down to, that we have very little idea of who we are and why we are here.


Well, we are alive and we are here. Maybe that is the basis of free will?

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Free will or not? 1285 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 281 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 250 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 224 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 210 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 209 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 210 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 200 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 214 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 188 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 198 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 216 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 227 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 213 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 183 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 207 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 226 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 206 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 192 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 194 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 195 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 197 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 202 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 195 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 189 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 190 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 208 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 183 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 219 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 188 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 204 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 195 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 191 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 194 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 209 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 197 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 195 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 199 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 207 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 230 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 206 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 207 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 197 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 194 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 198 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 183 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 194 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 201 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 189 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 174 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 205 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 189 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 190 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 200 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 224 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 225 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 192 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 191 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 214 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 203 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 201 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 202 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 190 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 215 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 190 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 218 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 203 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 204 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 196 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 189 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 205 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 193 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 204 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 204 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 191 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 211 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 184 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 193 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 182 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 189 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 178 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 200 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 188 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 182 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 187 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 195 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 176 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 329 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 195 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 177 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 201 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 182 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 201 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 179 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 158 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 170 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 175 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 200 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 195 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 213 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 213 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 201 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 177 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 189 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 180 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 212 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 182 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 189 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 213 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 177 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 178 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 190 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 197 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 256 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 224 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 238 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 190 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 214 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 191 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 208 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 185 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 201 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 191 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 218 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 199 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 209 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 202 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 202 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 208 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 214 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 199 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 202 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 203 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 237 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 227 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 219 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 222 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 193 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 195 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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