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Gerda stated
Something to do with those who stick rigidly to evolution deciding everything. We do such and such because of survival instinct.

The traditional theory of Evolution is not a theory that "decides" or "programs" any thing. The fit for their circumstances live to reproduce and continue their family lines. That's it, it is a general theory that works.

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Gerda stated
Who is sitting in the background cheering us on? Mr/mrs/ms evolution? Mr. Happy accident? A dot called Big Bang?

Have I no say at all?


No one is sitting in the background, There is no Wizard of Oz. In a sense, the TofE does put it all on the individual to be "fit." So you have the say that you have. You seem pretty fit to me!

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Gerda again
Again, it boils down to, that we have very little idea of who we are and why we are here.


Well, we are alive and we are here. Maybe that is the basis of free will?

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Free will or not? 1319 greengirl5 04-Nov-18 21:54
Re: Free will or not? 295 Itatw70s 04-Nov-18 22:51
Re: Free will or not? 261 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 00:02
Re: Free will or not? 233 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 03:19
Re: Free will or not? 219 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 04:01
Re: Free will or not? 220 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:01
Re: Free will or not? 217 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 05:10
Re: Free will or not? 207 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 05:25
Re: Free will or not? 225 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 06:18
The chocolate made me do it 208 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 07:35
Re: The chocolate made me do it 209 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 08:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 223 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 09:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 238 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 10:00
Re: The chocolate made me do it 218 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:18
Re: The chocolate made me do it 192 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:57
Re: The chocolate made me do it, but did not make me think! 215 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:25
Re: The chocolate made me do it 236 Eddie Larry 05-Nov-18 15:05
Security and randomness 216 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 08:19
Re: Security and randomness 205 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 12:51
Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 205 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 11:40
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 12:22
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 209 Itatw70s 05-Nov-18 12:48
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 212 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:35
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 13:04
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 196 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:28
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 202 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 19:57
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 224 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 20:39
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 197 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 06:21
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 227 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 09:19
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 213 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 10:37
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 200 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:09
Re: Cognitive processes allowing or not allowing free will 216 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:23
scientific vs. clinical perspective on consciousness 204 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 19:01
Various states of consciousness 198 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:37
Re: Various states of consciousness 209 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 06:11
Re: Various states of consciousness 217 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 07:28
Re: Various states of consciousness 209 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 08:28
you're totally lost here 206 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:55
Re: you're totally lost here 202 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 09:52
Re: you're totally lost here 204 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 12:02
Re: you're totally lost here 216 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 16:03
Keep the science out 238 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 18:25
Re: Various states of consciousness 216 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 08:58
Re: Various states of consciousness 220 Susan Doris 07-Nov-18 10:14
Re: Various states of consciousness 206 Eddie Larry 07-Nov-18 19:04
Re: Various states of consciousness 218 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:18
Was Einstein a scientist? 208 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 21:55
Not a materialist 206 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 22:14
Re: Not a materialist 195 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:16
Butting in 206 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 06:24
Re: Not a materialist 214 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:30
Re: Not a materialist 216 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 05:58
Re: Not a materialist 184 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:19
Re: Various states of consciousness 218 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:13
Re: Various states of consciousness 199 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 01:08
Re: Various states of consciousness 198 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 02:17
Re: Various states of consciousness 212 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 06:07
Interpretations 209 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 07:23
Re: Various states of consciousness 233 Susan Doris 08-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Various states of consciousness 233 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 18:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:16
Re: Various states of consciousness 200 Eddie Larry 09-Nov-18 23:57
May the force be with you! 221 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 01:57
Re: May the force be with you! 215 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 02:20
Re: May the force be with you! 210 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 04:10
Re: May the force be with you! 223 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:10
Re: May the force be with you! 202 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:26
Re: Various states of consciousness 223 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:15
Religious leaders and others 202 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 09:55
Re: Religious leaders and others 233 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 12:04
Pathological disbeliever 214 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 20:32
Re: Pathological disbeliever 214 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:01
Re: Various states of consciousness 204 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 14:27
Whose fault? 194 greengirl5 10-Nov-18 21:00
Re: Whose fault? 213 Eddie Larry 10-Nov-18 21:12
Re: Whose fault? 204 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:05
Re: Whose fault? 212 greengirl5 11-Nov-18 06:38
Re: Whose fault? 209 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 07:14
Susan's sociological theory of religions 199 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 19:10
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 221 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 20:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 191 drrayeye 11-Nov-18 02:16
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 201 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 205 Susan Doris 11-Nov-18 12:46
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 195 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 03:54
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 214 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:14
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 194 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 04:11
Re: Susan's sociological theory of religions 210 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 06:29
Maybe a cheer leader for science 195 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:34
"T of E" vs. "t of e"? 194 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 08:41
N R F 197 greengirl5 13-Nov-18 09:28
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 207 Susan Doris 13-Nov-18 17:59
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 185 drrayeye 13-Nov-18 20:16
Re: "T of E" vs. "t of e"? 346 Susan Doris 14-Nov-18 02:16
Superstitious behavior 203 drrayeye 08-Nov-18 20:40
Re: Superstitious behavior 190 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:53
Re: Superstitious behavior 216 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:30
another day--another rant. 195 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 09:15
Re: another day--another rant. 210 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 11:11
Free will 190 drrayeye 10-Nov-18 08:20
Superstitions 165 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 20:48
Re: Various states of consciousness 178 greengirl5 08-Nov-18 20:49
Re: Various states of consciousness 184 Eddie Larry 08-Nov-18 04:08
You're not following 209 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 08:47
Re: Free will or not? 203 Jock 06-Nov-18 17:00
Re: Free will or not? 228 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 18:04
Re: Free will or not? 222 Jock 08-Nov-18 21:38
Re: Free will or not? 207 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 06:41
Re: Free will or not? 183 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 07:32
Re: Free will or not? 196 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 07:48
Completely off the wall 187 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 13:01
Re: Completely off the wall 219 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 13:56
Re: Completely off the wall 192 drrayeye 09-Nov-18 18:00
Re: Completely off the wall 196 Susan Doris 09-Nov-18 18:31
Re: Completely off the wall 222 Jock 09-Nov-18 20:11
Contumelious 184 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:29
Re: Completely off the wall 186 Susan Doris 10-Nov-18 08:25
Re: Completely off the wall 197 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:17
Re-education 205 greengirl5 09-Nov-18 21:08
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 278 M. J. Thomas 05-Nov-18 14:45
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 239 drrayeye 05-Nov-18 15:46
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 260 M. J. Thomas 06-Nov-18 10:43
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 198 drrayeye 06-Nov-18 14:13
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 225 Susan Doris 06-Nov-18 14:28
So what is God to you? 198 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:47
Re: So what is God to you? 229 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 00:48
Re: So what is God to you? 194 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:21
Re: So what is God to you? 256 drrayeye 07-Nov-18 01:38
Re: So what is God to you? 203 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 02:07
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 228 Susan Doris 05-Nov-18 20:04
Re: Evolution is intelligent. 205 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:51
Me too! 219 greengirl5 05-Nov-18 22:47
No-Name freedom.... 212 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 01:12
The way 215 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 02:19
Re: Free will or not? 220 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 12:25
Re: Free will or not? 221 Eddie Larry 06-Nov-18 14:34
Re: Free will or not? 211 Itatw70s 06-Nov-18 16:42
Way to go! 211 greengirl5 06-Nov-18 21:52
The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 213 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 00:41
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 253 greengirl5 07-Nov-18 01:24
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 238 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 12:40
Re: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 227 Enigcom 07-Nov-18 16:15
Re: Free will or not? 230 Itatw70s 07-Nov-18 20:55
Re: Free will or not? 208 Enigcom 11-Nov-18 22:10
Re: Free will or not? 205 wilpsy3 10-Nov-18 21:39


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