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I can't quote the whole book! The two learned gentlemen discussed intelligence, and the Japanese seem not to have quite the same opinion of it as the English speaking world.

But I never the less will quote a chunk which I find very interesting.
Here goes: Chapter 7 - plants as brains. I had been looking into intelligence in nature for eighteen months, when a friend called to draw my attention to a recent article in the journal NATURE. It claimed that the investigation of plant intelligence is becoming a serious scientific endeavour, and that scientists are only now beginning to expose the remarkable complexity of plant behaviour.
These were the words of Anthony Trewavas, a professor of biology at the university of Edinburgh and a fellow of the Royal society, the oldest scientific society in Great Britain.
According to Trewavas, plants have intentions, make decisions, and compute complex aspects of their environment.

The author got to talk to Trewavas too.

A fascinating book.
Towards the end of that chapter he says that "Plants do not have brains, so much as act like them".

GG.



Susan Doris Wrote:
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I get the same impression, as Susan always
> ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course
> WE are the most wonderful that has happened on
> this planet!
> You're right of course - most of us have not
> radically changed our views, but as I never tire
> of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of
> views, which is the important thing; it is a
> process which leaves us all looking forward to the
> next one with a group of friends we have known for
> years. As to the second point, the clearest thing
> that nature has for us is the fact that
> cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution
> and stickability than any other species!
>
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called
> "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into
> knowledge).
>
> In it he meets with a Japanese scientist,
> Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many
> years, and together with another Japanese
> scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true
> slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN
> CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!
>
> The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy
> slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that
> the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".
>
>
> He read about it first in scientific papers, then
> wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a
> meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of
> talking science and discussing intelligence and
> western and eastern religious views.
>
> Yes, the information about slime moulds is
> fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What
> we humans label intelligence, though, is really a
> word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living
> creature’s) adaptability which of course it has
> because of lucky random mutations and natural
> selection.
>
> ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly
> believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such
> a thing is verified objectively by people
> achieving independent checkable results. Reason:
> it will then be natural and part of our knowledge
> base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as
> fact, not fiction!!
> /Susan



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Sin - do you?! 1247 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 255 PB Bytes 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 246 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 246 PB Bytes 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 249 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 238 PB Bytes 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 239 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 218 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 231 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 229 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 216 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 240 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 225 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 237 PB Bytes 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 229 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 226 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 234 PB Bytes 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 293 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 229 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 243 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 270 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 240 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 219 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 218 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 235 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 229 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 258 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 245 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 272 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 216 PB Bytes 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 218 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 221 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 215 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 229 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 212 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 232 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 323 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 215 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 229 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 211 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 213 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 233 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 214 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 237 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 229 PB Bytes 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 217 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 241 PB Bytes 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 220 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 226 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 220 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 217 PB Bytes 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 235 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 282 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 262 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 250 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 236 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 232 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 214 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 222 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 215 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 222 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 239 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 214 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 207 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 267 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 234 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 291 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 254 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 299 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 221 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 228 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 203 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 222 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 239 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 208 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 243 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 211 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 270 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 207 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 201 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 221 PB Bytes 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 224 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 209 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 270 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 233 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 221 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 253 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 213 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 226 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 226 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 204 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 220 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 239 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 212 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 260 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 214 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 227 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 221 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 227 PB Bytes 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 212 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 223 PB Bytes 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 221 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 251 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 240 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 240 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 292 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 213 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 246 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 222 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 260 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 224 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 229 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 253 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 214 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 215 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 250 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 226 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 234 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 207 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 204 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 218 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 263 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 297 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 219 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 213 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 234 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 236 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 211 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 227 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 214 PB Bytes 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 221 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 234 PB Bytes 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 225 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 221 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 221 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 213 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 210 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 233 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 213 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 227 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 296 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 226 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 221 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 239 PB Bytes 31-May-18 17:35
Job 236 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 226 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 249 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 265 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 343 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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