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I get the same impression, as Susan always ends up with that as the ultimate. And of course WE are the most wonderful that has happened on this planet!
You're right of course - most of us have not radically changed our views, but as I never tire of saying, it is the discussion, the exchange of views, which is the important thing; it is a process which leaves us all looking forward to the next one with a group of friends we have known for years. As to the second point, the clearest thing that nature has for us is the fact that cockroaches are the tops and superior in evolution and stickability than any other species!
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I am reading a book by Jeremy Narby called "Intelligence in Nature" (An inquiry into knowledge).

In it he meets with a Japanese scientist, Nakagaki, who has studied slime mold for many years, and together with another Japanese scientist and a Hungarian had discovered that true slime mold, Physarum Polycephalum, CAN CONSISTANTLY SOLVE A MAZE!

The author now asks "if a single cell of yellowy slime can solve a maze, does this not confirm that the entire edifice of life contains intelligence".

He read about it first in scientific papers, then wrote to professor Nakagaki and was granted a meeting with him. They had an enjoyable day of talking science and discussing intelligence and western and eastern religious views.
Yes, the information about slime moulds is fascinating, in a rather yucky sort of way! What we humans label intelligence, though, is really a word to sum up an animal's (animals = every living creature’s) adaptability which of course it has because of lucky random mutations and natural selection.

ETA: I guarantee absolutely that I will instantly believe in a supernatural God/etc the minute such a thing is verified objectively by people achieving independent checkable results. Reason: it will then be natural and part of our knowledge base, not supernatural. It wwill be accepted as fact, not fiction!!
/Susan



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Sin - do you?! 1230 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 242 PB Bytes 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 231 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 233 PB Bytes 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 237 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 227 PB Bytes 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 225 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 207 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 221 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 218 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 205 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 227 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 192 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 226 PB Bytes 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 216 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 214 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 222 PB Bytes 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 280 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 218 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 230 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 260 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 228 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 207 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 206 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 223 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 217 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 247 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 233 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 262 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 PB Bytes 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 208 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 210 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 203 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 218 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 201 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 220 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 310 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 204 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 217 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 201 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 203 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 223 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 202 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 225 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 219 PB Bytes 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 205 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 230 PB Bytes 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 209 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 208 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 207 PB Bytes 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 223 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 271 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 250 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 239 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 225 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 219 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 201 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 211 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 203 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 212 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 227 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 202 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 195 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 255 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 222 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 279 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 243 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 287 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 210 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 217 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 193 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 210 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 227 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 197 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 232 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 198 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 259 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 196 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 190 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 208 PB Bytes 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 211 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 198 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 256 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 223 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 210 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 241 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 201 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 214 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 214 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 192 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 209 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 227 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 200 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 246 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 201 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 215 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 208 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 216 PB Bytes 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 200 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 212 PB Bytes 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 210 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 240 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 230 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 229 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 280 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 201 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 233 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 211 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 248 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 213 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 217 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 243 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 202 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 203 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 237 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 213 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 222 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 197 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 192 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 208 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 251 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 283 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 208 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 202 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 223 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 225 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 200 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 214 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 202 PB Bytes 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 210 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 222 PB Bytes 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 213 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 209 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 210 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 201 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 199 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 222 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 202 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 213 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 279 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 215 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 209 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 228 PB Bytes 31-May-18 17:35
Job 226 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 216 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 238 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 254 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 329 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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