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Okay, you've shifted the goal posts in mid-game, as we say
sometimes in sports.
For a start, I did not set up ‘goal posts’, as that would be to stultify a discussion before it begins.
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That's fine, but where are you going with this thread. What was you’re intention, other than to have a chat?
As this is a discussion, it would not help to determine and state where it must go. I started with some questions and I hope that, while the general theme wil be adhered to, plenty of different ideas will be brought forward so that we can enjoy the exchange and maybe learn something we didn’t know before.
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It sounds as if your objection is others' use of the word
'sin' vs something else, 'mistakes' or a worse term, if the
violation warrants such a label. If your objection is to the
word 'sin', then aren't you really just projecting your
secular philosophy here, picking another subject that will
predictably lead to the same (secular specific) conclusion?
I don’t ‘object’ to the word sin – it is a part of the English language and is a normal word, even though it is in much less current use. I am, however interested in hearing where people think a wrong-doing must or can be labelled as sin and why.
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To Nolondil's point, as you describe it here. I still find it
lacking. Frankly, I am in very firm agreement with the idea
of transgressions, or many of them, evolving from 'missing the
target' to excessive guilt. No dispute there, but to describe
the worst of humanity's premeditated acts as 'missing the
target' which later became distorted as 'sin', overlooks a lot.
Susan, what's you're take on how those worst behaviors relate
to Nolondil's discussion on the etymology of 'sin'?
That it is very interesting to learn how words change in spelling and sound an, inevitably perhaps, in meaning.

Also – this isn’t a sort of test with right or wrong answers” 

Susan

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Sin - do you?! 1230 Susan Doris 26-May-18 12:37
Re: Sin - do you?! 242 PB Bytes 26-May-18 13:38
Re: Sin - do you?! 231 Susan Doris 26-May-18 13:53
Re: Sin - do you?! 233 PB Bytes 26-May-18 18:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 237 Susan Doris 26-May-18 18:36
Re: Sin - do you?! 227 PB Bytes 26-May-18 22:49
Re: Sin - do you?! 225 Eddie Larry 26-May-18 18:34
Re: Sin - do you?! 207 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 221 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 13:20
Re: Sin - do you?! 219 Susan Doris 27-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 206 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 227 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 Susan Doris 27-May-18 17:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 PB Bytes 27-May-18 17:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 193 Eddie Larry 27-May-18 19:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 226 PB Bytes 27-May-18 20:57
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 216 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:13
Re: Sin - do you?! 222 PB Bytes 28-May-18 16:06
Re: Sin - do you?! 280 MLloydHudson 26-May-18 18:43
Re: Sin - do you?! 218 drrayeye 26-May-18 18:59
Re: Sin - do you?! 230 Susan Doris 27-May-18 05:29
Re: Sin - do you?! 260 MLloydHudson 28-May-18 06:28
mistake vs. sin: a example 228 drrayeye 26-May-18 20:03
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 207 greengirl5 26-May-18 23:14
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 207 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:20
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 224 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:07
Re: mistake vs. sin: a example 218 drrayeye 28-May-18 03:09
Re: Sin - do you?! 247 drew 27-May-18 05:22
Re: Sin - do you?! 233 Susan Doris 27-May-18 06:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 262 drew 28-May-18 02:28
Re: Sin - do you?! 204 PB Bytes 28-May-18 02:18
Re: Sin - do you?! 208 Susan Doris 28-May-18 05:18
Sin or mistake 210 greengirl5 28-May-18 13:33
Re: Sin or mistake 203 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 13:49
Re: Sin or mistake 218 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:11
Re: Sin or mistake 202 Eddie Larry 28-May-18 14:30
Re: Sin or mistake 220 Susan Doris 28-May-18 13:50
Sinners and money-lenders 311 greengirl5 28-May-18 23:25
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 204 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:27
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 217 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:08
Re: Sinners and money-lenders 201 Susan Doris 29-May-18 14:46
Re: Sin - do you?! 203 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:03
Re: Sin - do you?! 223 Susan Doris 28-May-18 14:16
Re: Sin - do you?! 203 PB Bytes 28-May-18 14:25
Re: Sin - do you?! 225 Susan Doris 28-May-18 15:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 219 PB Bytes 28-May-18 15:52
Re: Sin - do you?! 206 Susan Doris 28-May-18 17:11
Re: Sin - do you?! 231 PB Bytes 28-May-18 17:39
Re: Sin - do you?! 209 Susan Doris 29-May-18 05:45
Re: Sin - do you?! 215 greengirl5 29-May-18 07:27
Re: Sin - do you?! 208 Susan Doris 29-May-18 15:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 207 PB Bytes 29-May-18 22:10
Re: Sin - do you?! 224 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:12
Re: Sin - do you?! 271 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 04:24
Re: Sin - do you?! 251 drew 28-May-18 23:11
A complement--and a reminder 240 drrayeye 29-May-18 19:54
Re: A complement--and a reminder 225 Susan Doris 30-May-18 07:34
Re: A complement--and a reminder 220 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:57
Re: A complement--and a reminder 201 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:32
Re: A complement--and a reminder 211 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:31
Re: A complement--and a reminder 204 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:04
Re: A complement--and a reminder 212 drrayeye 30-May-18 20:24
Re: A complement--and a reminder 227 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:14
A caveat 203 drrayeye 31-May-18 11:45
Re: A caveat 195 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:48
Re: eloquence with words... 256 drew 02-Jun-18 01:12
Re: eloquence with words... 223 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:19
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 280 Nolondil 29-May-18 20:41
Deliberate obfuscation 244 drrayeye 29-May-18 23:20
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 287 Nolondil 29-May-18 23:50
I answer the question 211 drrayeye 30-May-18 08:32
Re: I answer the question 218 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:40
See earlier reply 193 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:35
Re: I answer the question 210 greengirl5 30-May-18 13:05
Re: I answer the question 228 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 13:54
discernment 197 drrayeye 30-May-18 16:24
Re: discernment 233 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 22:32
Re: discernment 198 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:40
Re: discernment 259 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 00:02
Thunderstruck! 196 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:28
Re: discernment 190 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 209 PB Bytes 30-May-18 23:14
Of course "sin" exists 211 greengirl5 30-May-18 23:54
Re: Of course "sin" exists 198 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 256 Nolondil 31-May-18 00:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 223 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:43
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 210 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:13
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 241 Nolondil 31-May-18 18:25
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 201 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:00
Original sin--sort of 215 drrayeye 31-May-18 23:26
Re: Original sin--sort of 215 greengirl5 31-May-18 23:44
Re: Original sin--sort of 192 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 03:59
Re: Original sin--sort of 209 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:24
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 227 Nolondil 01-Jun-18 00:37
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 200 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 01:35
Very interesting! 246 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 01:42
Re: Very interesting! 201 PB Bytes 01-Jun-18 04:12
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 215 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:18
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 208 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:28
If not 'mistakes' then what? 216 PB Bytes 31-May-18 15:18
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 200 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:35
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 212 PB Bytes 31-May-18 18:05
Re: If not 'mistakes' then what? 210 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 05:31
Isn't it quite simple? 240 greengirl5 29-May-18 23:55
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 230 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:11
Thinking in earnest now 229 greengirl5 30-May-18 00:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 281 Nolondil 30-May-18 00:55
Re: Thinking in earnest now 202 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:37
Re: Thinking in earnest now 234 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 09:50
Re: Thinking in earnest now 211 Susan Doris 30-May-18 11:08
Re: Thinking in earnest now 248 Eddie Larry 30-May-18 17:46
Re: Thinking in earnest now 213 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:38
Re: Thinking in earnest now 217 greengirl5 31-May-18 12:57
Re: Thinking in earnest now 243 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 14:01
Re: Thinking in earnest now 202 greengirl5 31-May-18 14:19
Re: Thinking in earnest now 203 Susan Doris 31-May-18 14:54
Re: Thinking in earnest now 238 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 17:35
Re: Thinking in earnest now 213 Susan Doris 31-May-18 17:40
Re: Thinking in earnest now 222 Eddie Larry 31-May-18 18:25
Smart/intelligent slime 197 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:05
Re: Smart/intelligent slime 193 Susan Doris 01-Jun-18 13:29
Intelligent slime - not that simple! 209 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 23:03
Re: Intelligent slime - not that simple! 252 Susan Doris 02-Jun-18 05:36
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 284 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 02:20
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 209 greengirl5 31-May-18 02:56
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 202 Susan Doris 31-May-18 05:48
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 224 MLloydHudson 30-May-18 22:11
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 225 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:12
Re: Isn't it quite simple? 200 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:35
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 214 Susan Doris 30-May-18 12:09
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 203 PB Bytes 30-May-18 16:52
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 210 Susan Doris 30-May-18 17:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 222 PB Bytes 30-May-18 18:30
Another brainstorm of mine 213 greengirl5 31-May-18 00:56
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 210 PB Bytes 31-May-18 01:18
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 210 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:53
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 201 greengirl5 31-May-18 13:13
Re: Another brainstorm of mine 199 Susan Doris 31-May-18 15:02
the bible and God 223 greengirl5 01-Jun-18 08:16
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 202 Susan Doris 31-May-18 06:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 214 PB Bytes 31-May-18 19:14
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 279 MLloydHudson 31-May-18 03:41
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 215 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:22
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 209 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:11
Re: Deliberate obfuscation 229 PB Bytes 31-May-18 17:35
Job 226 PB Bytes 31-May-18 04:37
Re: Job 216 Susan Doris 31-May-18 07:14
Re: Sin - denotation and connotation 238 Susan Doris 30-May-18 08:00
Re: Sin - do you?! 254 Susan Doris 30-May-18 05:02
Sin do you... 329 drew 25-Jun-18 23:44


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