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OCaptain Wrote:
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> > > > hi bz,
> > > >
> > > > isn't it odd at the certainty "scientists"
> > have
> > > > with this event.
> > > > both the "sound of two black holes
> colliding"
> > > > originally detected
> > > > and now this burst of gamma radiation,
> > > especially
> > > > when "no radiation
> > > > was expected" since nothing can escape a
> > black
> > > > hole.
> > > >
> > > > if it doesn't walk like a duck,
> > > > or talk like a duck
> > > > maybe it's not a duck
> > > > so instead of modifying "how black holes
> > work"
> > > > to fit the new data
> > > > admit something is amiss
> > > >
> > > > they found something, just not "two black
> > holes
> > > > colliding"
> > >
> > >
> > > Like what? Using your duck theory, what best
> > fits
> > > the data?
> >
> > I don't have anything that fits the data
> > the thing is.... neither do they
> > so why not just say "here's something
> interesting
> > let's put it in the unknown column for now"
>
>
> Black Holes do best fit the data. The fact that
> the observation revealed something unexpected is a
> confirmation that the science is working. It is
> imperfect, hence they are having to go back and
> revisit some assumptions. It doesn't upend black
> holes existing at all.


In real science
one does not keep "revisiting some assumptions"
for each new discovery
and then say "black holes do best fit the data"

of course they would
when you modify your theory
to fit every new thingy that comes along

every one of the black hole theories
from the beginning until now
have been WRONG
or else they wouldn't have needed to be modified

how many times can a theory be wrong
before someone says "maybe we're going down the wrong road"
and stops and asks for new directions?

theories are suppose to PREDICT discoveries
and not constantly require modifications to the assumptions
making changes to your theory AFTERWARD to make things fit
means you don't know jack about what is really going on. PERIOD

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gravity waves "detected" 1520 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 539 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 431 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 534 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 449 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 491 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 337 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 441 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 488 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 546 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 406 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 443 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 336 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 353 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 353 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 451 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 466 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 391 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 368 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 408 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 321 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 258 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 354 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 475 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 417 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 274 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 362 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 425 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 434 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 386 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 405 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 341 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 475 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 466 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 386 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 384 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 371 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 426 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 293 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 367 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 506 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 325 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 341 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 316 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 442 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 446 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 342 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 446 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 436 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 444 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 393 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 478 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 472 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 553 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 375 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 416 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 304 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 383 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 472 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 415 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 263 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 577 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 520 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 346 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 448 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 384 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 394 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 306 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 250 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 329 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 488 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 390 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 482 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 488 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 419 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 526 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 460 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 455 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 439 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 449 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 264 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 473 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 318 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 375 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 364 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
LIGO press conf, June 15 407 brett z 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 392 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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