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Me Wrote:
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> [How does the "mass" inside the black hole
> "affect" space-time outside the event horizon?
> by what mechanism?
>
> another way to ask:
> does mass warp space directly?
> so is what we see as "gravity" is just the
> warping of space?
>
> Or does mass give off a gravitational field
> consisting of "gravitons" which interacts with
> other bodies and space.]
>
> Of course mass warps the spacetime around it.
> That is a core feature of GR. The two are only
> different perspectives.

hi Me,

No they are different mechanisms
If "mass" whatever that is,
warps "spacetime", whatever that is,
then no gravitons and no "gravity field", (which is just a gang of particles) are needed,
which is why Einstein came up with warping
(Gravity is the warping of space-time, the warping of spacetime near mass is what we perceive as gravity)
the two bodies do not influence each other thru fields but through "spacetime"
[www.youtube.com]

so no gravitons or gravitational fields in GR

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