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Sirius7237 Wrote:
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> laughin Wrote:
>
> > So gravity isn't "radiation", i.e.,
> > electromagnetic
> > and as such, doesn't have to obey the FTL speed
> > limit
>
> I saw this this morning and was going to post but
> you beat me to it. I knew you would be "skeptical"
> lol.
>
> Radiation probably not the correct way to look at
> it. Gravity is not transmitted through
> electromagnetic radiation. We have never been able
> to observe theoretical bosons called gravitons
> though. If they do exist, there is no experimental
> evidence to suggest that they propagate faster
> than C that I am aware of. An interesting question
> is how does such a particle if it does exist
> interact with the architecture of space and how is
> it generated from the interaction with the fields
> that impart mass?

But some kind radiation has, in the past, been what they tried to make gravity to be
all part of the "unification of the forces) process

whatever it is, HAS to travel faster than light, because the effect of gravity does
[grahamhancock.com]

So they are saying that space is rippling, not that some particle is traveling THRU space FTL
also, remember, space isn't made of particles (so get any ideas of aether out of your head right now)
If a ripple of "space" (chuckle) can travel faster than light can travel through it
then GR isn't violated,
the effect can be as fast as needed
and if no particles are exchanged
no bosons or gravitons needed
(bosons!, we don't need no stinking bosons)
which explains why they haven't been found!!!!

Hey, I'm just trying to interpret their "findings" before the Nobel
(it looks better to have the story straight beforehand)


now the big question...?
what's shakin'? (an old hippy expression :) )
what (and how) is grabbing ahold of space and shaking it?
especially since there is nothing to grab ahold of.....

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gravity waves "detected" 1625 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 608 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 497 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 597 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 520 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 556 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 402 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 508 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 550 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 632 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 469 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 511 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 406 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 425 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 417 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 519 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 538 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 442 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 472 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 387 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 331 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 420 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 541 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 477 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 331 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 424 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 486 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 498 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 450 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 471 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 406 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 531 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 529 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 455 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 445 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 439 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 530 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 488 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 358 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 434 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 578 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 388 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 400 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 369 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 511 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 517 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 405 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 517 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 506 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 503 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 456 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 540 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 545 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 624 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 438 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 490 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 369 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 460 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 535 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 478 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 326 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 643 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 589 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 418 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 508 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 452 Observer 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 372 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 367 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 388 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 440 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 553 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 570 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 551 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 490 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 588 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 533 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 516 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 494 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 507 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 332 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 538 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 379 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 436 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
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LIGO press conf, June 15 466 Observer 15-Jun-16 11:53
Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 450 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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