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Sirius7237 Wrote:
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> laughin Wrote:
>
> > So gravity isn't "radiation", i.e.,
> > electromagnetic
> > and as such, doesn't have to obey the FTL speed
> > limit
>
> I saw this this morning and was going to post but
> you beat me to it. I knew you would be "skeptical"
> lol.
>
> Radiation probably not the correct way to look at
> it. Gravity is not transmitted through
> electromagnetic radiation. We have never been able
> to observe theoretical bosons called gravitons
> though. If they do exist, there is no experimental
> evidence to suggest that they propagate faster
> than C that I am aware of. An interesting question
> is how does such a particle if it does exist
> interact with the architecture of space and how is
> it generated from the interaction with the fields
> that impart mass?

But some kind radiation has, in the past, been what they tried to make gravity to be
all part of the "unification of the forces) process

whatever it is, HAS to travel faster than light, because the effect of gravity does
[grahamhancock.com]

So they are saying that space is rippling, not that some particle is traveling THRU space FTL
also, remember, space isn't made of particles (so get any ideas of aether out of your head right now)
If a ripple of "space" (chuckle) can travel faster than light can travel through it
then GR isn't violated,
the effect can be as fast as needed
and if no particles are exchanged
no bosons or gravitons needed
(bosons!, we don't need no stinking bosons)
which explains why they haven't been found!!!!

Hey, I'm just trying to interpret their "findings" before the Nobel
(it looks better to have the story straight beforehand)


now the big question...?
what's shakin'? (an old hippy expression :) )
what (and how) is grabbing ahold of space and shaking it?
especially since there is nothing to grab ahold of.....

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gravity waves "detected" 1580 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 579 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 470 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 571 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 492 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 528 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 482 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 527 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 596 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 444 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 484 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 379 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 395 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 393 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 490 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 511 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 428 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 408 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 444 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 360 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 303 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 393 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 513 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 452 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 310 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 400 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 463 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 472 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 425 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 442 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 385 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 509 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 502 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 428 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 421 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 412 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 498 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 461 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 328 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 407 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 548 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 361 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 377 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 347 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 481 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 493 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 378 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 487 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 477 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 478 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 430 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 517 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 513 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 592 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 413 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 341 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 428 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 508 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 451 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 299 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 619 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 561 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 386 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 484 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 423 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 430 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 348 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 335 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 364 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 411 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 526 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 426 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 529 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 529 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 462 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 565 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 505 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 493 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 470 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 483 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 303 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 512 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 351 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 411 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
how many times can you change the rules and still get a black hole 399 laughin 08-Jun-16 14:00
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Re: LIGO press conf, June 15 424 D-Archer 15-Jun-16 14:48


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