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Sirius7237 Wrote:
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> laughin Wrote:
>
> > So gravity isn't "radiation", i.e.,
> > electromagnetic
> > and as such, doesn't have to obey the FTL speed
> > limit
>
> I saw this this morning and was going to post but
> you beat me to it. I knew you would be "skeptical"
> lol.
>
> Radiation probably not the correct way to look at
> it. Gravity is not transmitted through
> electromagnetic radiation. We have never been able
> to observe theoretical bosons called gravitons
> though. If they do exist, there is no experimental
> evidence to suggest that they propagate faster
> than C that I am aware of. An interesting question
> is how does such a particle if it does exist
> interact with the architecture of space and how is
> it generated from the interaction with the fields
> that impart mass?

But some kind radiation has, in the past, been what they tried to make gravity to be
all part of the "unification of the forces) process

whatever it is, HAS to travel faster than light, because the effect of gravity does
[grahamhancock.com]

So they are saying that space is rippling, not that some particle is traveling THRU space FTL
also, remember, space isn't made of particles (so get any ideas of aether out of your head right now)
If a ripple of "space" (chuckle) can travel faster than light can travel through it
then GR isn't violated,
the effect can be as fast as needed
and if no particles are exchanged
no bosons or gravitons needed
(bosons!, we don't need no stinking bosons)
which explains why they haven't been found!!!!

Hey, I'm just trying to interpret their "findings" before the Nobel
(it looks better to have the story straight beforehand)


now the big question...?
what's shakin'? (an old hippy expression :) )
what (and how) is grabbing ahold of space and shaking it?
especially since there is nothing to grab ahold of.....

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gravity waves "detected" 1548 laughin 11-Feb-16 16:34
Re: gravity waves "detected" 559 Susan Doris 11-Feb-16 17:44
Re: gravity waves "detected" 450 Sirius7237 11-Feb-16 18:30
Re: gravity waves "detected" 551 laughin 11-Feb-16 21:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 470 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:23
Re: gravity waves "detected" 508 laughin 12-Feb-16 15:51
Re: gravity waves "detected" 353 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 16:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 laughin 13-Feb-16 18:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 507 JonnyMcA 13-Feb-16 18:41
Re: gravity waves "detected" 570 Me 15-Feb-16 15:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 422 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 460 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 358 D-Archer 14-Feb-16 11:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 374 carolb 14-Feb-16 14:54
Re: gravity waves "detected" 370 Sirius7237 14-Feb-16 20:08
Re: gravity waves "detected" 474 carolb 14-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 486 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:20
Re: gravity waves "detected" 409 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:59
Re: gravity waves "detected" 386 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 427 carolb 13-Feb-16 21:29
Re: gravity waves "detected" 338 laughin 14-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 280 skakos 15-Feb-16 14:07
Re: gravity waves "detected" 373 Pete Vanderzwet 11-Feb-16 21:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 491 JonnyMcA 12-Feb-16 14:38
Onto Dark Energy waves! 432 Eddie Larry 11-Feb-16 21:34
It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 289 David L 12-Feb-16 12:50
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 377 Spiros 12-Feb-16 17:09
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 442 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 12:47
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 451 Aine 15-Feb-16 16:15
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 403 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 18:53
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 422 laughin 15-Feb-16 20:39
Re: It took 100 years to discover what Einstein already knew 363 Aine 16-Feb-16 01:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 491 dong 12-Feb-16 18:36
Re: gravity waves "detected" 485 laughin 13-Feb-16 03:26
Re: gravity waves "detected" 405 dong 16-Feb-16 07:41
Liego 400 laughin 15-Feb-16 04:17
Gravity Waves of Propaganda the Sequel 393 D-Archer 15-Feb-16 09:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 472 skakos 15-Feb-16 12:58
Re: gravity waves "detected" 440 Aine 15-Feb-16 22:31
Re: gravity waves "detected" 311 carolb 16-Feb-16 00:57
Re: gravity waves "detected" 391 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 11:47
Re: gravity waves "detected" 526 carolb 16-Feb-16 12:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 344 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 14:13
Re: gravity waves "detected" 359 carolb 16-Feb-16 14:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 330 D-Archer 16-Feb-16 15:17
Re: gravity waves "detected" 460 carolb 16-Feb-16 16:27
Re: gravity waves "detected" 468 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 14:08
Really? 361 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:11
Re: Really? 465 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:32
Re: Really? 454 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 15:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 457 carolb 17-Feb-16 18:05
mods! 410 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 11:13
Re: mods! 494 carolb 18-Feb-16 14:14
Re: mods! 493 D-Archer 18-Feb-16 16:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 570 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 01:06
Re: gravity waves "detected" 391 Aine 17-Feb-16 14:48
Re: gravity waves "detected" 435 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 15:19
Re: gravity waves "detected" 323 Sirfiroth 17-Feb-16 15:39
Re: gravity waves "detected" 398 JonnyMcA 17-Feb-16 17:37
Re: gravity waves "detected" 486 Aine 17-Feb-16 18:49
Re: gravity waves "detected" 434 laughin 16-Feb-16 20:24
Re: gravity waves "detected" 281 D-Archer 17-Feb-16 16:23
Gravy Waves 596 D-Archer 20-Feb-16 11:39
Playing devil’s advocate on the discovery of gravitational waves 541 laughin 02-Mar-16 18:23
Scientists: we're 100% convinced 366 laughin 07-Mar-16 17:13
Black holes and big bangs can't co-exist 465 laughin 13-Mar-16 04:52
Re: gravity waves "detected" 403 brett z 20-Apr-16 23:42
Re: gravity waves "detected" 412 laughin 21-Apr-16 14:02
Re: gravity waves "detected" 326 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:45
Re: gravity waves "detected" 290 laughin 10-May-16 13:16
Re: gravity waves "detected" 347 OCaptain 10-May-16 13:21
Re: gravity waves "detected" 393 laughin 10-May-16 19:25
Re: gravity waves "detected" 506 OCaptain 10-May-16 22:56
Re: gravity waves "detected" 406 laughin 11-May-16 15:32
Re: gravity waves "detected" 505 JonnyMcA 11-May-16 16:53
Re: gravity waves "detected" 503 laughin 12-May-16 16:26
pompousness "detected" 442 laughin 18-May-16 15:25
bump- 2 weeks 542 laughin 27-May-16 15:02
Re: bump- 3 weeks 481 laughin 02-Jun-16 23:20
Re: bump- 4 weeks and why isn't Carolb patrolling the threads 473 laughin 10-Jun-16 15:42
Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 456 laughin 04-May-16 13:15
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 464 D-Archer 09-May-16 19:05
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 281 OCaptain 10-May-16 12:46
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 494 laughin 10-May-16 13:27
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 335 OCaptain 10-May-16 16:39
Re: Gravitational Waves from Black Hole Megamergers Are Weaker Than Predicted 388 laughin 10-May-16 19:10
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