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laughin posted links to complaints raised against Velikovsky's Venus scenario by Carl Sagan - far too many to address effectively here without essentially rewriting my book.

As an example, Sagan noted that any event capable of ejecting Venus from Jupiter would have vaporized large portions of Jupiter, which should remain intensely hot even today.

One mystery relating to Jupiter is why its core measures half the size and twice the temperature as is predicted by prevailing theory. A 2010 study from researchers at Peking University concluded that a body ten times the size of the Earth collided with Jupiter, then sank to its core and vaporized it (see link to study below.)

The giant Red Spot storm on Jupiter reaches down to its core and up to the top of the Jovian atmosphere, and is thought to shuttle material upward through the atmosphere. Perhaps a product of that impact, it could quite conceivably have been the conduit of material ejected by the collision.

Sagan said that any astronomic process that creates a large body also creates many smaller bodies. My outlook is that the same process could quite reasonably have intermixed the varied materials documented to constitute some comets.

By comparison to ancient myths cited by Velikovsky, the god Zeus learned through prophecy that a goddess named Metis would give birth to a god even greater than him. To prevent that, he swallowed Metis, and Pallas Athene (Venus) sprung from his head.

As another example, Sagan remarks about the unlikelihood of an event occuring with just the right energy to have ejected Venus into orbit without also ejecting it out of the solar system. The first problem with Sagan's outlook is that he should know there is no validity to applying calculations of probability retrospectively. If there were, we could easily make the argument based on probabilities that the universe itself shouldn't exist.

- Laird


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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 491 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 349 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 341 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 400 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 395 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 laughin 29-Oct-15 18:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 329 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 361 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 374 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 371 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 302 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 307 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 386 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 309 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 309 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 318 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 407 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 449 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 270 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 357 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 371 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 281 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 363 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 305 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 317 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 294 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 242 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 291 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 378 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 433 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 273 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
What about scientism? 321 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 08:19
Re: What about scientism? 310 carolb 07-Nov-15 12:59
Re: What about scientism? 349 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:55
Re: What about scientism? 407 carolb 07-Nov-15 17:37
Re: What about scientism? 314 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 19:55
"Blue sky thinking" 306 randompHactor 07-Nov-15 20:15
Re: What about scientism? 301 carolb 07-Nov-15 20:41
Re: What about scientism? 286 drrayeye 07-Nov-15 23:36
Re: What about scientism? 281 carolb 07-Nov-15 23:45
Re: What about scientism? 321 laughin 09-Nov-15 02:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 420 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 385 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 553 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 294 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
Mod Note > skakos – Switch View 314 Dr. Troglodyte 02-Nov-15 22:33
Re: SUMMARY? 402 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 410 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 264 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 393 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 230 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 347 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 OCaptain 03-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 275 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 418 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:28
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 04:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 14:30
Regarding myths... 272 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
Re: Regarding myths... 267 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 17:00
Re: off topic... 249 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 339 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 399 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 01:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 279 skakos 05-Nov-15 14:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 14:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 383 skakos 05-Nov-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 05-Nov-15 19:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 372 Laird Scranton 04-Nov-15 21:23
Cosmic Disconnect 294 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
Re: Cosmic Disconnect 250 OCaptain 07-Nov-15 13:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 460 skakos 16-Nov-15 12:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 368 OCaptain 16-Nov-15 13:54
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 410 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 473 OCaptain 17-Nov-15 01:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 405 skakos 18-Nov-15 18:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 415 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 354 OCaptain 19-Nov-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 439 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 577 skakos 27-Dec-15 22:04


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