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To quote from my own book on the subject of Ptolemy, Copernicus and Venus:

In the first century CE, Greek mathematician, astronomer, geographer,
and astrologer Ptolemy made detailed observations of the risings
and settings of Venus that are at odds with our current experience. In
support of Velikovsky’s view, a 2002 article by Hugh Thurston titled
“Unveiling Venus” seeks to resolve the seemingly untenable differences
between Ptolemy’s observations of the motions of Venus and those
known to be true today. He writes, “Several writers have suggested that
Ptolemy adjusted (or even fabricated) his observations [of Venus]. In
particular, Swerdlow wrote that Ptolemy ‘could not have observed some
of the reported elongations’ (he certainly could not have observed two
MMEs [maximum mean elongations] 37 days apart).”

Dennis W. Duke, a professor of physics at Florida State University,
writes in a 2002 article titled “The Ancient Values of the Planetary
Parameters of Venus and Mercury,” “It is certainly the case that for
Venus, and only for Venus, Ptolemy presents an analysis that . . . needs
to be resolved.”

As late as the early 1500s, significant differences are noted in the
astronomic observations of Venus, even when given by well-respected
astronomic luminaries of the day. For example, it is reported that
Copernicus, who famously established the heliocentric model of the
solar system, calculated the sidereal period of Venus to be nine months
(270 days) instead of seven and one-half months (225 days). Such errors,
which are often seen by modern astronomers to be inexplicable, might
make sense if Velikovsky’s view that Venus was out of its orbit were
true.

As we might also expect based on Velikovsky’s scenario in which the
orbit of Venus may have been in flux, there are also significant contradic-
tions to be found between Ptolemy’s observations of Venus in the first
century CE and those of Copernicus fourteen centuries later. Venus, as a
planet that reflects the light of the sun that is shone on it, moves through
apparent phases when viewed from Earth, similar to the familiar phases
of the moon. Such phases could appear significantly different to us for
different bodies, depending on the specific relationship of that body in
space to Earth and the sun. Both Ptolemy and Copernicus produced
drawings that purported to diagram or predict the various phases of
Venus. However, Lewis A. Riley, a professor in the Department of Physics
and Astronomy at Ursinus College, wrote in 2004:

"The phase of a planet or moon depends on its position relative both
to the Sun and the observer. Hence, any model of the solar system
can be used to make predictions regarding the phases of the planets
and moons. From our perspective on Earth, Mercury and Venus are
inner planets. That is, they are closer to the Sun than we are. The
Ptolemaic and Copernican models of the solar system make different
and incompatible predictions regarding the phases of the inner
planets viewed from Earth. Hence, observations of the phases of the
inner planets lead us to reject one or both of these models."


- Laird



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 31-Oct-15 04:00 by Laird Scranton.

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SUMMARY? 294 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
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Re: SUMMARY? 402 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 23:22
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 411 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
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Regarding myths... 273 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
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Re: off topic... 250 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
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