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carolb Wrote:
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> Starbinder Wrote:
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> > carolb Wrote:
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> > > Starbinder Wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Carol,
> > > >
> > > > Been following the Rosetta Mission for 15
> > > months
> > > > now. I've watched the conference you
> linked.
> > At
> > > > 1:06:00 Jean-Pierre Bibring is speaking. He
> > > > reprimands a collegue for making a cartoon
> of
> > > the
> > > > skier on Hapi Valley saying that it was the
> > > wrong
> > > > thing to do. He goes on to say that there
> is
> > no
> > > > surface ice anywhere on the comet and even
> in
> > > the
> > > > crevasses where they have looked deep.
> > > >
> > > > Ever wonder why we aren't getting any
> OSIRIS
> > > > images??
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about? What part of
> > >
> >
> [url=http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Scien
>
> >
> > >
> >
> ce/Rosetta/Exposed_water_ice_detected_on_comet_s_s
>
> >
> > > urface]this link from Rosetta[/url] didn't
> you
> > > read?
> > >
> > > Do I have to isolate the mentions of surface
> > ice
> > > for you? Start with these.
> > >
> > > [quote]Using the high-resolution science
> camera
> > on
> > > board ESA’s Rosetta spacecraft, scientists
> > have
> > > identified more than a hundred patches of
> water
> > > ice a few metres in size on the surface of
> > Comet
> > > 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]A new study just published in the
> > journal
> > > Astronomy & Astrophysics focuses on an
> analysis
> > of
> > > bright patches of exposed ice on the
> comet’s
> > > surface.
> > >
> > > Based on observations of the gas emerging
> from
> > > comets, they are known to be rich in ices. As
> > they
> > > move closer to the Sun along their orbits,
> > their
> > > surfaces are warmed and the ices sublimate
> into
> > > gas, which streams away from the nucleus,
> > dragging
> > > along dust particles embedded in the ice to
> > form
> > > the coma and tail.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]Now, using images taken with
> Rosetta’s
> > > OSIRIS narrow-angle camera last September,
> > > scientists have identified 120 regions on the
> > > surface of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko
> that
> > > are up to ten times brighter than the average
> > > surface brightness.[/quote]
> > >
> > > [quote]“Water ice is the most plausible
> > > explanation for the occurrence and properties
> > of
> > > these features,” says Antoine Pommerol of
> the
> > > University of Bern and lead author of the
> > study.
> > >
> > > “At the time of our observations, the comet
> > was
> > > far enough from the Sun such that the rate at
> > > which water ice would sublimate would have
> been
> > > less than 1 mm per hour of incident solar
> > energy.
> > > By contrast, if carbon dioxide or carbon
> > monoxide
> > > ice had been exposed, it would have rapidly
> > > sublimated when illuminated by the same
> amount
> > of
> > > sunlight. Thus we would not expect to see
> that
> > > type of ice stable on the surface at this
> > > time.”[/quote]
> > >
> > > Are these scientists lying about the evidence
> > > before their eyes?
> > >
> > > As for Osiris images, I have no idea what
> > you're
> > > talking about. There are plenty on the
> Rosetta
> > > blog.
> > >
> > > Carol
> >
> >
> > As I understand it most if not all of those
> > reports or papers were from September 2014.
> > Bibring updates the overall mission in June by
> > saying that even the lightest spots (blue) are
> > actually very dark, from memory I think he says
> 3
> > times darker than the darkest of the moon. Very
> > low albedo. I suspect there is some very
> creative
> > dynamic image stretching going on at ESA. Not
> only
> > in trying to produce ice where there is none
> but
> > just this week with super-illuminated imagery
> to
> > bring out jets.
> >
> > FYI they are not releasing OSIRIS images as
> they
> > promised they would. There is an orgy of NAVCAM
> > though.
> >
> > Give Bibring a listen.
>
>
> I find it hard to believe what I've just read
> there. You're so far down the conspiracy rabbit
> hole, it's just not worth responding to.
>
> Carol

Actually, you don't need to respond. I suggested a listen of Bibring the LEAD investigator/scientist who says that reason the surface looks bright is due to dynamic image stretching. He also says, as I mentioned, the lighest spots, which he shows as he talks are actually darker than the darkest of our moon. His words not mine.

Don't listen to him if you don't want to, but until you do you will not know what he is saying about ice, light spots and image enhancements.

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More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 2132 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 512 OCaptain 28-Oct-15 23:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 367 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 492 Laird Scranton 28-Oct-15 23:51
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 350 carolb 28-Oct-15 23:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 343 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 00:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 400 laughin 29-Oct-15 16:29
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 396 Starbinder 29-Oct-15 17:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 18:08
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 321 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:13
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 329 laughin 31-Oct-15 15:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 362 drrayeye 31-Oct-15 16:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 16:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 298 laughin 31-Oct-15 18:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 19:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 323 laughin 01-Nov-15 03:12
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 342 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 05:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 374 laughin 01-Nov-15 16:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:31
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 301 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 laughin 30-Oct-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 371 Aine 30-Oct-15 15:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 carolb 30-Oct-15 15:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 308 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:55
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 338 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 386 Aine 30-Oct-15 17:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 18:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 laughin 30-Oct-15 18:44
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 laughin 29-Oct-15 20:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 310 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 22:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 312 carolb 29-Oct-15 22:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 00:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 303 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 408 Aine 30-Oct-15 14:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 15:42
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 449 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 285 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 16:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 313 carolb 30-Oct-15 16:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 17:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 388 carolb 30-Oct-15 17:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 271 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:07
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 258 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:37
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 358 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:51
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:06
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 313 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 372 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 260 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 21:09
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:23
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 00:49
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 287 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 248 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 01:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 396 carolb 31-Oct-15 01:38
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 290 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 03:58
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 369 carolb 31-Oct-15 12:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 268 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:47
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 319 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 16:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 18:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 334 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:48
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 267 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 00:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 carolb 01-Nov-15 01:00
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 01:36
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 335 skakos 03-Nov-15 09:51
Conspiracy... 282 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:19
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 259 OCaptain 30-Oct-15 20:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 364 Laird Scranton 30-Oct-15 20:30
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 249 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 00:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 306 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 02:04
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 12:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 284 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 15:41
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 226 OCaptain 31-Oct-15 20:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Laird Scranton 31-Oct-15 21:26
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 281 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 12:10
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 13:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 317 carolb 01-Nov-15 15:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 294 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 16:52
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 296 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:56
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 carolb 01-Nov-15 17:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 269 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 18:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 drrayeye 01-Nov-15 21:57
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 243 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 16:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 292 OCaptain 01-Nov-15 19:35
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 379 Laird Scranton 01-Nov-15 20:34
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 288 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 19:27
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:01
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 261 laughin 30-Oct-15 20:17
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 304 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 20:24
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 336 carolb 30-Oct-15 20:46
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 337 Starbinder 30-Oct-15 21:14
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 289 carolb 30-Oct-15 23:11
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 263 Starbinder 31-Oct-15 01:05
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 286 Starbinder 02-Nov-15 19:40
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 311 carolb 02-Nov-15 21:21
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 277 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 14:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 435 carolb 06-Nov-15 15:16
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 274 Starbinder 06-Nov-15 18:50
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 283 carolb 06-Nov-15 20:10
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 421 laughin 30-Oct-15 15:03
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 386 OCaptain 29-Oct-15 23:20
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 553 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 23:51
SUMMARY? 295 skakos 02-Nov-15 21:33
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 412 Laird Scranton 29-Oct-15 19:32
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 265 Laird Scranton 02-Nov-15 16:53
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 394 drrayeye 02-Nov-15 19:52
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 238 drrayeye 03-Nov-15 16:09
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 276 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 18:46
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 251 laughin 03-Nov-15 19:02
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 297 Laird Scranton 03-Nov-15 21:02
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 295 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 06:18
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Regarding myths... 273 skakos 03-Nov-15 11:46
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Re: off topic... 250 Ratcho 03-Nov-15 20:15
Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 340 skakos 04-Nov-15 13:28
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Cosmic Disconnect 295 laughin 06-Nov-15 15:00
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 411 skakos 16-Nov-15 15:36
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 416 Ratcho 18-Nov-15 18:45
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Re: More comet evidence in support of Velikovsky 439 skakos 19-Nov-15 07:24
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