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Hi All,
For some reason this seems to be relevant to today’s political picture and the things that are transpiring regarding the upcoming elections.

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“Plato's main grievance with democratic culture is the notion that an ill-informed majority could outnumber one just, virtuous, and well-educated individual--- the philosopher--- and thus falsity would triumph over truth. For example, Plato spells out the predicament of the philosopher in a democratic culture through an analogy of an unruly crew. Imagine, Plato asks the reader, a crew on a ship. The owner of the ship, having gained a position of authority on the boat through size and strength, is ill-equipped in naval knowledge to steer the ship. Meanwhile, there are a multitude of sailors who all think they are fit to be the captain. They believe that they are fit to be the authority on the ship despite the fact that they had never learned anything about naval matters,--- because, as they say, captainship is not something that can be taught (Republic 488a). When the sailors fail in their quests, they seek to kill their competitors, and manipulate the owner into ceding control of the ship, and "... help themselves to its cargo, and have the kind of drunken and indulgent voyage you'd expect from people like that" (Republic 488d). On such a ship, the way to gain favor of the other sailors is to contribute to their quest to subdue the owner, and thus come to be recognized as a 'true captain" (Republic 488d). Therefore, any true naval expert, one who has studied the requisite naval matters in order to properly guide a ship, will fail when he tries to speak up. Because this expert is more concerned with actually guiding the ship, rather than contributing to the cause of the other sailors, he is viewed as useless by the rest of the sailors. He is thought of as "nothing but a windbag with his head in the clouds" (Republic 489a). “ Speaking to the metaphor, the philosopher in a democratic culture is the true sea captain ignored by the majority, while the sophist is the pseudo-captain who gains favor through rhetoric and manipulation”.

Sound familiar?
This seems to relate to the current attitude in some towards the current administration’s leadership and policies. So you sailors with out there who think you are qualified enough to cast dispersions on the current leadership analyze your own position are you Captain or pseudo-captain material?

Regards,
Jacob



"True knowledge stands on its own merit, true knowledge needs no cheerleaders, only receptors. There is no amount of attitude that will strengthen true knowledge".~Author unknown!

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The Law of diminishing returns..n/c 173 Geoff 21-Sep-08 01:03
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A cautionary tale......... 164 Geoff 21-Sep-08 16:17
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