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RaVaN,

"Reasoned violence is what seperates us from the animals and should be used to solve the problem, just treating the symptom. In the case of war, people try to make war a nice event, when it isn't and never has been. When you go to war, you should go to solve the problem...not cater to your emotions. This is why reasoned violence should be one of the last resorts as well."

No animals place themselves in danger for no reason, thus all animal violence has a reason - it is always reasoned violence - mating, feeding, territory, self-preservation - all survival 'instincts' and all good reasons.

Another point is animals don't start wars over beliefs, and it is beliefs that separate us from the animals not reason or emotion. Beliefs are the result of our ability to imagine 'other worlds' (religious or political), they are not real, they are conceptual and, as such, all wars are irrational and unreasonable.

As for taking out a real and present threat to 'you or yours' I have no argument whatsoever but, let's not go chasing shadows and imagined 'threats' to our life and liberty.



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Subject Views Written By Posted
War is Hell 231 SunSword 03-Jun-06 01:07
Re: War is Hell 137 Gengus 03-Jun-06 03:24
Re: War is Hell 108 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 07:07
Re: War is Hell 147 IanG 03-Jun-06 08:08
Re: War is Hell 141 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 10:15
Re: War is Hell 152 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 05:08
Re: War is Hell 104 SunSword 03-Jun-06 12:24
Re: War is Hell 116 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 16:01
Re: War is Hell 127 SunSword 04-Jun-06 01:47
Re: Outcomes 133 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 17:18
Re: Outcomes 126 Jergat 03-Jun-06 17:47
Re: Outcomes 163 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 19:24
Kill Gene 120 Citizen Attorney 03-Jun-06 19:34
Re: Kill Gene 103 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 20:56
Nature/Nurture 122 SunSword 04-Jun-06 13:10
Re: Kill Gene 152 ladyswanca 04-Jun-06 16:34
Re: Kill Gene 123 RaVaN 04-Jun-06 23:52
Re: Kill Gene 126 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 04:05
Re: Kill Gene 127 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 07:04
Re: Kill Gene 107 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 14:02
Re: Kill Gene 110 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:13
Re: Kill Gene 130 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 16:32
Re: Kill Gene 139 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:54
Re: Kill Gene 165 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:59
Re: Kill Gene 113 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 17:29
Re: Kill Gene 97 Dave Light 06-Jun-06 12:04
Re: War is Hell 140 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 14:34
Re: War is Hell 84 RaVaN 05-Jun-06 23:40
Re: War is Hell 128 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:48
Re: War is Hell 126 RaVaN 06-Jun-06 05:03
Re: Headless Heroes 145 PriorityRed 05-Jun-06 23:51
Re: Headless Heroes 138 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:51
Re: War is Hell 112 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 10:51
Re: War is Hell 156 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 11:01
Re: War is Hell 186 Aarooga 06-Jun-06 13:13


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