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RaVaN,

"Reasoned violence is what seperates us from the animals and should be used to solve the problem, just treating the symptom. In the case of war, people try to make war a nice event, when it isn't and never has been. When you go to war, you should go to solve the problem...not cater to your emotions. This is why reasoned violence should be one of the last resorts as well."

No animals place themselves in danger for no reason, thus all animal violence has a reason - it is always reasoned violence - mating, feeding, territory, self-preservation - all survival 'instincts' and all good reasons.

Another point is animals don't start wars over beliefs, and it is beliefs that separate us from the animals not reason or emotion. Beliefs are the result of our ability to imagine 'other worlds' (religious or political), they are not real, they are conceptual and, as such, all wars are irrational and unreasonable.

As for taking out a real and present threat to 'you or yours' I have no argument whatsoever but, let's not go chasing shadows and imagined 'threats' to our life and liberty.



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Subject Views Written By Posted
War is Hell 328 SunSword 03-Jun-06 01:07
Re: War is Hell 203 Gengus 03-Jun-06 03:24
Re: War is Hell 177 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 07:07
Re: War is Hell 219 IanG 03-Jun-06 08:08
Re: War is Hell 210 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 10:15
Re: War is Hell 230 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 05:08
Re: War is Hell 176 SunSword 03-Jun-06 12:24
Re: War is Hell 180 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 16:01
Re: War is Hell 202 SunSword 04-Jun-06 01:47
Re: Outcomes 211 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 17:18
Re: Outcomes 196 Jergat 03-Jun-06 17:47
Re: Outcomes 238 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 19:24
Kill Gene 183 Citizen Attorney 03-Jun-06 19:34
Re: Kill Gene 175 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 20:56
Nature/Nurture 184 SunSword 04-Jun-06 13:10
Re: Kill Gene 219 ladyswanca 04-Jun-06 16:34
Re: Kill Gene 194 RaVaN 04-Jun-06 23:52
Re: Kill Gene 193 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 04:05
Re: Kill Gene 189 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 07:04
Re: Kill Gene 181 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 14:02
Re: Kill Gene 180 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:13
Re: Kill Gene 213 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 16:32
Re: Kill Gene 215 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:54
Re: Kill Gene 241 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:59
Re: Kill Gene 180 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 17:29
Re: Kill Gene 166 Dave Light 06-Jun-06 12:04
Re: War is Hell 218 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 14:34
Re: War is Hell 165 RaVaN 05-Jun-06 23:40
Re: War is Hell 192 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:48
Re: War is Hell 202 RaVaN 06-Jun-06 05:03
Re: Headless Heroes 217 PriorityRed 05-Jun-06 23:51
Re: Headless Heroes 205 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:51
Re: War is Hell 183 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 10:51
Re: War is Hell 232 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 11:01
Re: War is Hell 288 Aarooga 06-Jun-06 13:13


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