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RaVaN,

"Reasoned violence is what seperates us from the animals and should be used to solve the problem, just treating the symptom. In the case of war, people try to make war a nice event, when it isn't and never has been. When you go to war, you should go to solve the problem...not cater to your emotions. This is why reasoned violence should be one of the last resorts as well."

No animals place themselves in danger for no reason, thus all animal violence has a reason - it is always reasoned violence - mating, feeding, territory, self-preservation - all survival 'instincts' and all good reasons.

Another point is animals don't start wars over beliefs, and it is beliefs that separate us from the animals not reason or emotion. Beliefs are the result of our ability to imagine 'other worlds' (religious or political), they are not real, they are conceptual and, as such, all wars are irrational and unreasonable.

As for taking out a real and present threat to 'you or yours' I have no argument whatsoever but, let's not go chasing shadows and imagined 'threats' to our life and liberty.



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Subject Views Written By Posted
War is Hell 305 SunSword 03-Jun-06 01:07
Re: War is Hell 184 Gengus 03-Jun-06 03:24
Re: War is Hell 160 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 07:07
Re: War is Hell 201 IanG 03-Jun-06 08:08
Re: War is Hell 193 RaVaN 03-Jun-06 10:15
Re: War is Hell 209 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 05:08
Re: War is Hell 157 SunSword 03-Jun-06 12:24
Re: War is Hell 161 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 16:01
Re: War is Hell 184 SunSword 04-Jun-06 01:47
Re: Outcomes 193 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 17:18
Re: Outcomes 176 Jergat 03-Jun-06 17:47
Re: Outcomes 220 Thunderbird 03-Jun-06 19:24
Kill Gene 167 Citizen Attorney 03-Jun-06 19:34
Re: Kill Gene 153 PriorityRed 03-Jun-06 20:56
Nature/Nurture 167 SunSword 04-Jun-06 13:10
Re: Kill Gene 201 ladyswanca 04-Jun-06 16:34
Re: Kill Gene 175 RaVaN 04-Jun-06 23:52
Re: Kill Gene 174 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 04:05
Re: Kill Gene 171 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 07:04
Re: Kill Gene 163 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 14:02
Re: Kill Gene 161 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:13
Re: Kill Gene 191 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 16:32
Re: Kill Gene 193 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:54
Re: Kill Gene 223 ladyswanca 05-Jun-06 16:59
Re: Kill Gene 163 Farseeker 05-Jun-06 17:29
Re: Kill Gene 146 Dave Light 06-Jun-06 12:04
Re: War is Hell 196 Hoppy 05-Jun-06 14:34
Re: War is Hell 148 RaVaN 05-Jun-06 23:40
Re: War is Hell 174 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:48
Re: War is Hell 178 RaVaN 06-Jun-06 05:03
Re: Headless Heroes 193 PriorityRed 05-Jun-06 23:51
Re: Headless Heroes 187 Hoppy 06-Jun-06 00:51
Re: War is Hell 162 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 10:51
Re: War is Hell 211 phoboskitty 06-Jun-06 11:01
Re: War is Hell 267 Aarooga 06-Jun-06 13:13


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