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Hi Steve,


"how can a government who actively supported Saddam in the war with Iran, not be as culpable as any of the others on your list?"


Are you trying to say the US is just as bad as Saddam? Do I have to explain the whole "cold war" thingy again? I didn't think so.


"I was not 'for a war on Saddam'."


Then you were for appeasing a man who was continuing to torture, rape
and murder his own people in the name of 'peace'. How many Iraqis did you ask about this?


"We, as a nation, were informed by our government that we were under imminent threat of attack from Saddam's WMD's. "

If that's how you saw it, then good for you. That's not how it was spelled out in the US. I have already quoted Bush multiple times saying that we could not afford to wait for the threat to become imminent. Saddam had already proven he would use these weapons, and supported and harbored international Islamic terrorists. In the US, that's all we needed to know.

"We have problems closer to home with Mugabe and Zimbabwe, part of our Commonwealth."

As I have posted before, Mr Blair eloquently described the reality that if we did not stand up to the likes of Saddam, all of the other threats, for instance Mr Mugabe, would become further emboldened. He was right. The dictators paid very close attention to what happened in Iraq, and if Qaddafis actions are any indication, they all got very nervous.

"People are being oppressed and murdered here, so why wasn't he given the 'Saddam' treatment? I am for the removal of tyrants and despots without any dubious strings attached, or the killing of innocent civilians."

Then you are appeasing them. Do you think Mugabe will step down of his own volition? Why would he? Just like Saddam, he has the money and the power, he has no reason to leave. Only force will remove him. You have stated before that's what responsible nations should do.

"You claim that Saddam wasn't co-operating. He made things difficult but when he realised that he had gone too far he capitulated, offering access for the US' government departments. "

To do what? Go look in empty closets? Saddam was continuing to play the same games he had for years. You were willing to let the Iraqis continue to suffer as long as Saddam promised to play nice. That's appeasement.


"As far as WMD's are concerned, if any are discovered by an independant organisation and proved to be the ones that Saddam was about to unleash on us, then yes, I and many millions of Britains should withdraw that allegation against the PrimeMinister. "

So unless we find a dozen Nerve gas missiles that are aimed directly at the UK, you will not agree with Blairs decision? How about if we find a garage fillied with barrels of anthrax? A warehouse filled with Botulism? Somehow I doubt any of the appeasers will ever be satisfied. That's unfortunate.


"You keep refering to 'we', when you talk about US actions. Are you part of the government?"

No.

Tim

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Iraq's WMDs found!!! 162 Duncan_Idaho 10-Jan-04 19:00
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 99 Duncan_Idaho 10-Jan-04 19:19
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 63 Doug T 10-Jan-04 20:11
Aha, Danes find possible blister gas... 93 ananda 10-Jan-04 20:49
LINK: Danes find possible blister gas... 79 ananda 10-Jan-04 20:52
nope .... no mustard gas .... n/t 118 Akula 18-Jan-04 15:35
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 75 Geoff 10-Jan-04 23:54
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 92 KimD 17-Jan-04 21:50
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 85 Geoff 18-Jan-04 02:34
Two interpretations of blister gas find. 81 ananda 10-Jan-04 23:54
Re: Two interpretations of blister gas find. 81 lovejoy 11-Jan-04 12:12
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 79 E-rok 11-Jan-04 01:03
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 115 Timothy 12-Jan-04 15:10
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 84 lovejoy 12-Jan-04 16:58
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 92 Timothy 12-Jan-04 17:17
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 70 lovejoy 12-Jan-04 18:06
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 117 Timothy 12-Jan-04 18:27
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 83 lovejoy 12-Jan-04 19:26
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 110 Timothy 12-Jan-04 19:45
When and Why 50 Thirdwave 12-Jan-04 22:00
Timothy - my questions, perhaps? 79 Thirdwave 13-Jan-04 21:18
Re: Timothy - my questions, perhaps? 62 Thirdwave 13-Jan-04 21:19
Re: When and Why 126 Timothy 14-Jan-04 00:01
Why ? --- Oil 94 Thirdwave 17-Jan-04 22:49
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 82 lovejoy 13-Jan-04 09:44
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 86 Antgbrooks 13-Jan-04 22:34
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 106 Timothy 14-Jan-04 00:15
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 82 Antgbrooks 14-Jan-04 22:06
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 87 Doug T 12-Jan-04 18:48
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 93 Timothy 12-Jan-04 18:53
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 81 Doug T 13-Jan-04 01:25
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 95 E-rok 13-Jan-04 15:10
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 108 Timothy 13-Jan-04 15:19
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 81 lobo-hotei 13-Jan-04 17:40
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 83 E-rok 13-Jan-04 18:12
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 190 Timothy 13-Jan-04 18:24
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 80 E-rok 13-Jan-04 18:36
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 120 Timothy 13-Jan-04 18:45
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 118 Timothy 13-Jan-04 18:54
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 87 E-rok 13-Jan-04 19:56
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 87 Timothy 13-Jan-04 21:24
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 73 E-rok 13-Jan-04 22:54
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 116 Timothy 14-Jan-04 00:23
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 98 E-rok 14-Jan-04 01:30
MD500MD Defender 83 Akula 16-Jan-04 21:07
Re: MD500MD Defender 86 E-rok 17-Jan-04 01:47
Re: MD500MD Defender 54 Akula 17-Jan-04 20:30
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 65 cardinal guzman 15-Jan-04 22:37
Moderator Warning 88 Thirdwave 13-Jan-04 21:31
Re: Moderator Warning 70 E-rok 13-Jan-04 23:03
Thanks, E-rok n/t 73 Thirdwave 14-Jan-04 00:03
Re: Moderator Warning 115 Timothy 14-Jan-04 00:25
Capitals! 80 Geoff 15-Jan-04 02:44
Saddam was the biggest WMD 92 David L 14-Jan-04 02:47
Looks to me like.... 92 Kevin Kanada 12-Jan-04 17:59
Iraqi chemical weapons and archaeology in the year 7300 91 Akula 13-Jan-04 00:57
Re: Iraqi chemical weapons and archaeology in the year 7300 83 Doug T 13-Jan-04 01:28
saddam hussein and the next archaeologist ...... 7300AD 84 Akula 13-Jan-04 23:42
The wrong war/Why Iraq was a mistake! 52 ananda 13-Jan-04 13:18
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 90 Timothy 13-Jan-04 14:47
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 53 lovejoy 14-Jan-04 11:42
Re: Iraq's WMDs found!!! 59 Geoff 18-Jan-04 03:08


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