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Howdy Ahmed,

You are a stand up individual Ahmed.

May I reply to some of your points, maybe it will clear the air a bit.

>>>I suppose I expect you to be angry about the way the NAI were treated in the past - however you make a very valid point about the futility of holding onto anger.<<<

Anger, prejudice, bias and hatred works on a person like a cancer, yet some folks just can't stop smokein :).

>>>The reason why I bring up this topic at all is in view of your extreme patriotism - a patriotism which refuses to see anything bad about the way the US handles things - despite the fact that it is far from blameless.<<<

I have, many times, admitted the faults of my country from my Bloodline to Da Nam and beyond, I have never said the USA is blameless, quite the opposite, but my statements seem to be ignored or unread.
Where my Patriotism kicks in is when the USA is accosted with unreasonable, undue prejudice and bias driven statements.
You see Ahmed being Indian I can spot prejudice and bias a mile off whether it be aimed at the USA or Native Americans.
Evil is evil and quite easy to spot.

>>>Another thing which bugs me is what I perceive to be your over-confidence - your approach can seem arrogant at times. Your style can be condecending and larger than life.
I suppose that like most of us, the side we see here is not always the same as the self outside of this MB.<<<

LOL Ahmed, Ok Pard you got me, I admit can come off totally over-confident and arrogant, I fully realize this, but I only use this approach when I deem it necessary.
I have lived and worked from S. Texas to Alaska and will always be rembered the one fella that would do anything to help another out, many times I have been told I'm the nicest and most dependable person that folks have ever met.
My Father called it being a "Good Hand" (as in Ranch Hand) in life, with all you might meet.

>>>The other reason for bringing in the NAI angle is that many see similarities in the approach of the US even today.
It was not long ago [only 4-5 decades] when the negroes were treated with contempt by many Americans - and many of those racist are still alive.<<<

Well Ahmed Iraq is Liberation not conquest, the Pilgrimage to Karbala is the most poinent event to happen religiously in Iraq since saddam outlawed the Pilgrimage back in the 70's and is a perfect example of US intentions, were gonna get out of Iraq at the first opportune moment.
4-5 decades ago, come on Ahmed, there you go bringing up and useing old hatred's and prejudices that have fallen so far by the wayside that they are irrelavent in America today, my Black, Caucasion, Indian, Oriental and Hispanic buddies would tell ya the same.
We all just want to raise our Families without the threat of an Airplane killing thousands of innocent folks and not to have to worry about some wingnut trying to kill us because they percieve us, in all our colors and religions, as infidels.

>>>The implication is that some vestiges of this tendency to a supremacist attitude still exist today and shapes in some form the foreign policies that we see.
America still sees itself as a superior force in the world - not only militarily or financially.
The 'high ground' approach that you use at times seems to echo this concept.<<<

Your perception of the USA is a direct result of your sources, I have but supplied you with another source in which to construct and mold your knowledge of the world, that's all I've been trying to do on this MB since 9/11, and now it's come down to me being insulted for being Native American and Disabled, I guess it's because it's the only weapon left to those that suffer from the 'Low Ground'.

>>>So there you have some of the motivations for my comments.
Not excuses since I really should not resort to such forms of 'debate'.
As such please accept my apologies again.<<<

I hope in my over-confident and arrogant manor I have helped you get to know me a bit better :).

Wah Duh Ost Ahmed,
Will

PS,
I'm really not 'over-confident' Ahmed, just plain confident :).

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