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Hi Jergat,

In am not trying to say bad or evil do not exist. Perhaps a better context would've been created had I kept the thread online here. As it is, I provided Milo with the Urantia Book's narration of the Lucifer Rebellion via private e-mail. Perhaps he should share that e-mail on this board because our exchange happened before anyone seemed interested. If you want me to post the Urantia Book's narration of the Lucifer Rebellion it'd be easy and then we could all comment on, appreciate it, ridicule it -- whatever.

you write:

"Man is still being influenced by evil, and the summary of this would be the binary struggle between God and Satan."

Milo and I have difference of opinion as to the nature of the "influence" (I cannot stress that enough). For the sake of discussion, in this thread, I am treating the subject of Lucifer as if he were a real being who has had or has (depending on how one looks it) an observable effect on our understanding God (and there are of course a million other ways of putting that).

I take special exception to Milo's Lucifarian observations, not because he simply disagrees with me, but because (IMO) they come across as fundamentalist -- he is right and everyone else is wrong if they cannot agree on what he observes -- fundamentalist -- because anyone contrary to his observations is unwittingly victim to Lucifarian half-truths (and I could pull quote after quote of this from plenty of people he's had this conversation with).

This is probably the only time I have used this source in the spirit of contention; every other time I site the Urantia Book it is in the spirit of perspective growth and conceptual appreciation. Other's have done it too, just look at Brandon E post floating around lately.

Sincerely,

Dominick

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Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 204 Dominick Ohrbeck 05-Sep-02 22:21
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 116 banah 06-Sep-02 22:55
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 123 Dominick Ohrbeck 07-Sep-02 00:31
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 171 Seth 07-Sep-02 01:52
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 76 Dominick Ohrbeck 07-Sep-02 03:01
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 136 Jergat 08-Sep-02 04:12
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 208 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 06:40
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 111 Jergat 08-Sep-02 07:16
Oh yeah - include those Urantia parts in this thread n/t 148 Jergat 08-Sep-02 07:20
Here are the Opposing Viewpoints for the Sake of Discussion (LONG) 248 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 07:33
Re: Here are the Opposing Viewpoints for the Sake of Discussion (LONG) 233 Jergat 08-Sep-02 08:25
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 97 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 07:55
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 123 Jergat 08-Sep-02 08:31
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 106 Halbared 12-Sep-02 11:46
Questions About the Urantia Book 105 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 03:28
Motion to obtain the floor... 133 J.Rafferty 07-Sep-02 11:44
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 99 Orion von Koch 08-Sep-02 03:44
Re: Milo: "Formal" Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 138 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 07:20
Re THE LUCIFER REBELLION 108 msutton 12-Sep-02 11:28
Re: Re THE LUCIFER REBELLION 212 Halbared 12-Sep-02 12:10


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