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Hi Milo, All,

I would like you and I to respond to the following Resolution:

Resolved: Mankind is systematically controlled by a Lucifarian doctrine manifesting as One World Government or The New World Order.

Definitions:
-- "Mankind" defined as material will creatures
-- "Lucifer" defined as real (non-fictional) universe being (and for the sake of argument analogous to Satan).


You argue the PRO as per your following quote:

<<It's my belief these beings are the angels that rebelled and materialised on earth and dwelt in a lost civilisation. But they were swept away by some catastrophe that befell them and confined to a different dimension, may be inner earth and that they became disembodied spirits controlling the affairs of man through the Sun religions and cults that they had formerly created and which vaguely reflect the true workings of God but have been given a slight spin, with the purpose of trapping mankind so that they can be easily controlled to carry out their agenda, which is to build a Lucifarian OWG, which will 'hatch' them back to earth as physical beings once more, to rule and laud over mankind, who they will use as slaves and also to farm them for their ability to produce what they need to remain in the physical plane. The Great Pyramid and the Sphinx are both catalysts for this agenda, IMO.

The symbols are what give the game away. It would take many books to elaborate on this and many secular books have been written (including the non-secular Bible) When you annotate these symbols you find them in Royal, political and big business symbolgy, not to mention all the secret socieites and Druidic Orders that are behind all institutions, worldwide. These symbols can be traced back to the dawn of recorded civilisation and these symbols all, more or less, tell the same story, which adds much weight to the argument that this is not mere coincidence. Symbols, as you know, are the language of the gods and to understand these beings' agenda, you have to understand their language and it's through the symbols that it can be established that it is the same influence that has guided mankind through the ages.>>


I will argue the CON:

I will offer up a theological alternative of Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ according to the Urantia Book -- a source you have more or less labelled as originating in Lucifarianism itself.


I suggest the following structure:

1. Opening Statements theologically supporting or countering the resolution.
2. A Criticism (in lieu of cross-ex) of each other's theological statements
3. Response to each other's critique.
4. Closing Arguments


What do you think about the Resolution and/or definitions? If you accept can we accomplish this in a 3 to 10 day time frame?

Regards,

Dominick

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Subject Views Written By Posted
Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 204 Dominick Ohrbeck 05-Sep-02 22:21
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 116 banah 06-Sep-02 22:55
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 124 Dominick Ohrbeck 07-Sep-02 00:31
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 171 Seth 07-Sep-02 01:52
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 76 Dominick Ohrbeck 07-Sep-02 03:01
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 136 Jergat 08-Sep-02 04:12
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 209 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 06:40
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 112 Jergat 08-Sep-02 07:16
Oh yeah - include those Urantia parts in this thread n/t 149 Jergat 08-Sep-02 07:20
Here are the Opposing Viewpoints for the Sake of Discussion (LONG) 248 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 07:33
Re: Here are the Opposing Viewpoints for the Sake of Discussion (LONG) 233 Jergat 08-Sep-02 08:25
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 97 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 07:55
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 123 Jergat 08-Sep-02 08:31
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 106 Halbared 12-Sep-02 11:46
Questions About the Urantia Book 105 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 03:28
Motion to obtain the floor... 133 J.Rafferty 07-Sep-02 11:44
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 99 Orion von Koch 08-Sep-02 03:44
Re: Milo: &quot;Formal&quot; Theological Debate on Lucifer's Role in Development of Human Civ. 139 Dominick Ohrbeck 08-Sep-02 07:20
Re THE LUCIFER REBELLION 108 msutton 12-Sep-02 11:28
Re: Re THE LUCIFER REBELLION 212 Halbared 12-Sep-02 12:10


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