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Protected classes are social constructs, but ones that we deem to be largely beneficial to those affected.

The Law is a social construct, as are society, economics, languages, concepts like civility, culture, literature and music, art and entertainment, architecture, traditions, fashion, communication, technology, roles and norms, emotions and human behavior.

But the study you cite from Brown (which is just one controversial study) has been challenged and largely debunked by another Brown researcher. See: [www.buzzfeednews.com]

Also, “The paper was met with a strongly negative reaction from transgender activists who stated that it had already been politicized, and that there was self-selection bias of the subjects that Littman surveyed, as she only surveyed the parents and not the young people themselves nor the health professionals caring for them.[4] Responding to negative comments, PLOS One announced two weeks after publication that it would open a post-publication review of the study's methodologies and analyses” from here: [en.wikipedia.org]

Even the study’s author, Lisa Littman, agrees that ROGD is not an accepted diagnosis, but, not enough to retract her paper, which hasn't caught on fire.

I don’t care if all people agree with me, I just care if what I say is true.

Also, you ask “how is modern gender theory falsifiable?” To which I would say: “special pleading”.

It’s funny how you only remember Popper’s affinity for only using falsifiable arguments when it’s time to whip out a non-existent connection between two things that don’t otherwise have one. As your assumption that only you and people who agree with you are the ones who can properly understand that sex and gender are the same thing.

Are you really going to take a pass on the vast consensus of modern data, in exchange for a single, anecdotal personal view? Because your view is shocking, especially coming from a self-described liberal.

Looks like your favorite professor isn’t the only one willing to die on a ridiculous hill!

Also, you wrote: “Just so I'm not taken out of context, let me reiterate: the issue I have is being compelled to deny reality. That's all.”

That says much more about you than any protected classes. You're tilting at windmills here, you just don't get that yet.

Your Olympic example, where you ask “Is it fair for biological women to sacrifice as required and put in thousands of hours of toil to become elite in their sport just for a biological male to walk it and take it away with minimal effort?” To which I would say - we’ll figure it out.

And your second, even more stupid example, which is also harmful to protected classes, by perpetuating negative stereotypes of trans women: “Or a biological male to fight in women's combat sports and nearly kill them?” Do you have any empirical studies to support your claim that elite Olympic-level transgender women cannot control themselves to keep from nearly-murdering their CIS female opponents?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 13-Aug-21 17:30 by OCaptain.

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Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 655 OCaptain 09-Aug-21 16:22
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 103 Nolondil 09-Aug-21 21:48
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 148 Archaic 12-Aug-21 01:06
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 110 Glass Jigsaw 12-Aug-21 21:02
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 112 OCaptain 13-Aug-21 14:42
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 77 Aine 13-Aug-21 15:50
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 87 Glass Jigsaw 14-Aug-21 13:10
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 153 Archaic 14-Aug-21 21:16
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 75 Glass Jigsaw 15-Aug-21 12:09
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 97 Archaic 14-Aug-21 21:11
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 82 eli stills 15-Aug-21 01:48
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 83 Archaic 15-Aug-21 01:59
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 78 eli stills 15-Aug-21 12:10
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 76 Archaic 21-Aug-21 04:00
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 66 eli stills 21-Aug-21 13:51
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 76 Archaic 26-Aug-21 02:36
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 81 eli stills 27-Aug-21 00:54
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 61 Archaic 04-Sep-21 01:28
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 101 eli stills 04-Sep-21 01:32
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 57 Archaic 04-Sep-21 02:40
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 59 eli stills 04-Sep-21 03:16
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 52 Archaic 05-Sep-21 23:20
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 43 eli stills 06-Sep-21 00:24
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 47 Archaic 06-Sep-21 00:30
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 45 eli stills 06-Sep-21 01:01
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 46 Archaic 06-Sep-21 01:03
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 43 eli stills 06-Sep-21 01:11
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 43 Archaic 06-Sep-21 01:38
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 56 OCaptain 04-Sep-21 02:36
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 65 Archaic 04-Sep-21 02:40
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 56 eli stills 04-Sep-21 03:18
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 62 Warwick 04-Sep-21 16:07
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 59 Archaic 05-Sep-21 23:19
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 58 eli stills 06-Sep-21 00:26
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 45 Archaic 06-Sep-21 00:32
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 42 eli stills 06-Sep-21 01:04
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 45 Archaic 06-Sep-21 01:05
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 49 eli stills 06-Sep-21 01:08
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 49 Archaic 06-Sep-21 01:39
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 96 Brian Patterson 10-Aug-21 01:36
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 155 OCaptain 10-Aug-21 18:53
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 110 Brian Patterson 11-Aug-21 04:51
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 154 OCaptain 11-Aug-21 17:20
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 178 Archaic 12-Aug-21 00:45
trans rights are human rights! 104 OCaptain 13-Aug-21 17:19
Re: trans rights are human rights! 102 Archaic 14-Aug-21 21:08
When you're calmly outreasoned, you become enraged! 76 OCaptain 15-Aug-21 20:37
Re: When you're calmly outreasoned, you become enraged! 77 Archaic 21-Aug-21 04:06
Re: When you're calmly outreasoned, you become enraged! 72 OCaptain 21-Aug-21 19:41
Re: When you're calmly outreasoned, you become enraged! 144 Archaic 26-Aug-21 02:44
Re: When you're calmly outreasoned, you become enraged! 80 OCaptain 26-Aug-21 22:04
Triggered!! 69 OCaptain 01-Sep-21 14:19
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Re: Triggered!! 57 eli stills 04-Sep-21 02:33
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Re: Triggered!! 55 OCaptain 04-Sep-21 02:51
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Re: Triggered!! 53 OCaptain 04-Sep-21 03:10
Re: Triggered!! 65 Aine 05-Sep-21 17:47
Re: Triggered!! 60 Archaic 05-Sep-21 23:28
Re: Triggered!! 46 OCaptain 06-Sep-21 02:08
Re: Triggered!! 89 Archaic 06-Sep-21 02:22
Re: Let's talk about the facts on trans people and trans rights 117 debraregypt 15-Aug-21 23:38
You wouldn't be trying to start a moral panic, would you? 97 OCaptain 16-Aug-21 00:28


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