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WhoWeird Wrote:
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> Nolondil Wrote:
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> -----
> > That's an interesting thought. The entire body
> of
> > what the military knows about UFOs/UAPs could
> > include much very detailed military analysis of
> > their capabilities, and therefore data about
> our
> > military technology. This is regardless of
> whether
> > there is a project 'on our side' operating some
> of
> > them. Do all members of Congress have the
> > necessary security clearances? It seems like a
> bad
> > idea to spread high-level information among any
> > more people than absolutely necessary in any
> case.
> > Maybe Biden's team can sneak a similar rider
> into
> > an upcoming bill that modifies this
> requirement...
>
>
> Exactly. Like PB suggested, there should be
> compromises. But releasing everything because it
> might be interesting is a bad idea. Snowden went
> into government services intending to steal
> property from the government, and release it
> illegally. He was never a whistleblower, he is a
> criminal. If he thought what he was witnessing was
> wrong, he could have gone through legal channels
> like Alex Vindman and others. Reality Winner is
> another good example. What she did was clearly
> criminal, and her sentence is absolutely
> warranted. Winner removed a report on Russian
> hacking from a secure facility and mailed it to a
> news outlet. For that crime, she should pay a
> price. Even if her intent was to bring down Trump.
> I agree with her on that, but she should have gone
> through legal channels.
>
> I obsess over national security issues, so the
> Trump administration has been a perpetual
> nightmare for me. But Biden has worked in a
> Presidential administration. Kamala Harris, Nancy
> Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are all intelligence
> committee veterans. And Adam Schiff, new House
> Intel chair, is a true Russia hawk. All of the
> above understand the importance of state secrets,
> and are likely a lot less draconian than I tend to
> be. So the chances of getting a decent compromise
> with regard to UFO releases are probably quite
> good.
>
> But we should definitely not just declassify
> everything on a whim. I understand that’s how
> Trump “operates”. But that’s also why all of
> his businesses have been or will be bankrupt,
> he’s facing criminal liability that is hard to
> imagine, and he’s about to leave office with
> Washington DC a war zone. So I’m inclined to
> execute a more deliberative approach moving
> forward.

As far as the UFO debate goes, just because something is declassified doesn't mean it will ever see the light of day.

Here's an example. Back in the late 40s and 50s the Air Force and its predecessor were very interested in the subject for obvious reasons, not least of which was President Truman hounding them for answers. In 1955, the Air Force released a document called Blue Book Special Report No. 14, which was a statistical analysis of all reports received since 1949, when Blue Book was formed out of the ashes of Project Sign and Project Grudge.

For years people wondered what happened to Reports 1--13 because if you have a 14th, #1--13 exist somewhere, right?

It turns out that #1--12 (1951--1953) were declassified in 1960 but the declassification was never announced. It took an intervention by Congress before NICAP could get those documents from the Air Force even though they were declassified. They got them in 1968.

To this day nobody knows what happened to No. 13.

Stupidity is knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies. And that is more infectious than any other disease. ~ Richard Feynman

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180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 361 Deep1 16-Jan-21 14:40
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 93 Aine 16-Jan-21 15:00
my question would be 101 PB Bytes 16-Jan-21 17:41
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 90 WhoWeird 16-Jan-21 17:24
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 91 PB Bytes 16-Jan-21 17:34
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 94 WhoWeird 16-Jan-21 19:28
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 82 PB Bytes 16-Jan-21 20:55
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 75 WhoWeird 16-Jan-21 21:13
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 92 Nolondil 16-Jan-21 22:35
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 82 WhoWeird 16-Jan-21 23:03
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 81 Aine 17-Jan-21 20:16
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 66 WhoWeird 17-Jan-21 22:23
Elections Have Consequences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 90 WhoWeird 18-Jan-21 01:00
Re: Elections Have Consequences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 72 Aine 19-Jan-21 00:49
Re: Elections Have Consequences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 82 Sirius7237 19-Jan-21 01:05
Re: Elections Have Consequences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 70 WhoWeird 19-Jan-21 02:44
Re: Elections Have Consequences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 123 Sirius7237 19-Jan-21 04:05
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 77 OCaptain 19-Jan-21 13:43
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 96 Aine 19-Jan-21 17:26
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 93 WhoWeird 17-Jan-21 04:08
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 72 Nolondil 17-Jan-21 21:53
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 71 WhoWeird 17-Jan-21 22:28
Re: 180 Days to disclose "Everything" about UFOs 73 Aine 17-Jan-21 14:48
The insanity defense 69 PB Bytes 17-Jan-21 17:54
Re: Clearly they know more than they are telling 106 Sirius7237 16-Jan-21 23:59
Re: Clearly they know more than they are telling 100 Aine 17-Jan-21 14:38
Re: Clearly they know more than they are telling 79 Sirius7237 17-Jan-21 18:39
Re: Clearly they know more than they are telling 141 Aine 17-Jan-21 19:53


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