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Actually, it wasn't Hollywood that normalized gay marriage, it was Karl Rove. Check out the history of the trends. Most people disapproved of allowing formal marriage to same-sex couple for decades. Hilary Clinton, darling of what passes for 'the left' in this country, was publicly against it. But Karl Rove saw an opportunity to drive the 'conservative base' to the polls by stirring up movements to pass state referendums explicitly outlawing same-sex marriage. It worked for a while, but then the sheer amount of publicity made people think about the issue. And then a huge part of the electorate who had either not bothered to express themselves, or not even thought about the issue, started to speak up. There was a complete reversal in about a decade from Karl Rove's stunt to supposedly strengthen the base to a national consensus in favor of same-sex marriage. And then leading lights of 'the left' like Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton jumped out in front of the parade...

Editorial in The Washington Post, October 20, 2014

[www.washingtonpost.com]

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Gays and lesbians owe thanks to President George W. Bush and Justice Scalia

A lot of people are responsible for the wave of same-sex weddings sweeping the nation of late. But President George W. Bush and Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia deserve a lot more credit than they are given. By attempting to ban gay marriage, the president sparked public debate about marriage equality that ignited a historic backlash. The justice sneered at gay marriage in dissenting opinions, only to see his words used by gay marriage proponents to bolster their own cases and by courts to invalidate laws he thought legally sound.

In February 2004, Bush called for a constitutional amendment against gay marriage that would have etched discrimination into our nation’s most sacred document. Then, thanks to a Bush-backed effort 10 years ago next month, voters in 11 states approved ballot initiatives that banned committed same-sex couples from marrying. Contrary to popular lore, the anti-gay measures did not give Bush a reelection edge. But they did spark a public debate about same-sex marriage that ignited the backlash we’re witnessing today.

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And of course Shrub's chief political strategist was... Karl Rove. :D

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