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adequatedane Wrote:
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> Hi Arch
>
> Lets step back for some background. First Here is
> the 911 call on
> Floyd..<[www.youtube.com]
> 4>
>
> Quote from the call..." Um someone comes our store
> and give us fake bills and we realize it before he
> left the store, and we ran back outside, they was
> sitting on their car. We tell them to give us
> their phone, put their (inaudible) thing back and
> everything and he was also drunk and everything
> and return to give us our cigarettes back and so
> he can, so he can go home but he doesn't want to
> do that, and he's sitting on his car cause he is
> awfully drunk and he's not in control of
> himself."
>
> So Floyd buys merchandise in the store with fake
> money,was drunk and not in control of himself per
> the 911 call. The store gave him the opportunity
> to return the purchased items, Floyd refuses and
> then just sits on his car. So he doesn't leave or
> try to get away.
>
> More background. Keep in mind they sent 4 cops.
> Why so many?
>
>
> Well they worked security together at the same
> club
> <[people.com]
> e-officer-worked-same-club/> as bouncers and
> Chauvin, the cop, worked there for 17 YEARS. You
> can believe Chauvin, as a cop knew, Floyd's
> demeanor, personality and capability. So some
> questions, What did Chauvin know about Floyd? Did
> Chauvin share info about Floyd to his dept. or
> other cops? Is this why they sent at least 3 cop
> cars and 4 cops? What led up to Floyd coming to
> the store and why did he not return the purchase
> items when given the opportunity and why didn't he
> leave? Was he that messed up and if he was, what
> was he on?
>
> Now the knee on the neck.
>
> Now I'm not endorsing anything, but a knee on
> someones neck can be used from a means of
> controlling to causing them to pass out from lack
> of blood flow. Its hard to tell if Chavin just has
> his knee on the neck or if he is bearing down?
> From what I can see Chavin is just using a level
> of his body weight on the neck as control and not
> leaning forward to put extra force on the artery
> which would cause Floyd to pass out. Keep in mind
> Floyd was a club bouncer which means he could
> handle himself so weakening him may have been
> prudent? We don't know Floyd's abilities? Keep in
> mind that even with Floyd possibly being under
> control by Chavin he could still escape if the
> other cops weren't holding him down. The knee on
> the carotid artery doesn't prevent air flow it
> prevents blood flow. Its why Floyd could breathe
> and talk. Also flexing the neck muscles and
> repositioning the head can reduce the effects of
> compression on the artery. I can't tell if Floyd
> is flexing his neck muscles but I can see he's not
> changing his head angle to lessen the effects of
> Chauvin's knee. Now maybe he was to drunk or
> stoned to do this but its almost muscle memory to
> relieve the pressure when your body isn't getting
> blood flow? Or maybe Floyd wasn't concerned about
> passing out from the knee on his neck. So we don't
> know yet its all allegation this is what caused
> Floyd's death and it may well be.
>
> But again there is a lack of evidence and info
> about a bunch of stuff, yet, just like with
> Michael Brown of Ferguson fame, ( remember "Hands
> up don't Shoot? ) we have the media making the
> narrative and the immediate introduction of the
> professional rioters.
>
> I have the feeling there is a whole lot more to
> this event then what we know right now.
>
> Thank you,Dane



They didn’t even know that he was the one who had been passing the counterfeit money. And the crime is a misdemeanor.

All they knew is he resisted.

And now he’s dead.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30-May-20 15:22 by OCaptain.

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How many times will I have to repeat myself?! :D 133 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 21:23
Waikiki 139 drrayeye 04-Jun-20 21:28
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