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"Something else was going on medically, I thought."

- I'd wager that it's drug related...

"That cop enjoyed every second of it, and if you watch his knee, he's ANALYZING the health status of Floyd and making adjustments to further put him in crisis."

- All speculation.
-That the knee restraint is a rare tactic, is a flag - I highly doubt that this was taught through the academy.
-That no other officer - as far as the videos I've seen - didn't correct or exchange with that officer is also a flag. It's pretty standard for officers newest to the scene after resisting arrests to take custody of the suspect to allow the officers who were in the conflict to decompress. Was this officer a part of the original conflict or a newly arrived?
-That Floyd could still speak indicated that he could still breathe at that time. Acknowledging that fact doesn't excuse the knee hold, during and after.
-That the officer and officers continued to engage and allow that move after the suspect stopped moving, is a serious flag and the issue, imo. Subduing and unruly suspect, either by temper or by drugs, is dangerous for both the officer and suspect. Placing such a person inside the back of a cruiser is also dangerous but for the suspect i.e. self-harm. In the video, you can hear an officer saying that they've been trying to get Floyd into the cruiser for over ten minutes. Restraining the suspect until they calm down is what they have to do. This still doesn't excuse that officer's use of knee but it does give context.

"I don't know what the answer for this is, but I can say for the first time in my life, I understand the rioting. In previous cases I couldn't understand how burning down a store helps a cause, or is constructive in ending racism. I get it now - it's not about that at all. It's anger, and it's justified. They feel powerless and are ferociously angry and hurt. It's a pressure cooker that just can't hold under this strain."

- Absolutely retarded....... You assume "racism," for starters because of???? 'He's white and he's black.' In other words, racism....... Then you accept that it's okay for those people who get pissed about not getting mob-justice to run around and steal my shit? Burn down by store? Burn up my p.o.s. car that I can barely afford that gets me to and from my min wage job to my ghetto apartment? Absolutely retarded logic. The race hustlers and race-pimps of the Dems and MSM have pushed this racist BS card for decades, fabricating this "pressure cooker" and someone buying into that is "justified"??? GFOH....

"I'm sure some will claim that every profession has bad apples. This is true, but bad apples CANNOT be allowed in this profession. This cop had 18 complaints filed against him and was still on active duty."

- Yes, there are. I've met a few from both sides of the law.... And how do we weed out these "bad apples?" I'm sure you know about the Stanford prison experiment but how about the Milgram experiment? In short, a series of factors can turn any good apple into a bad one... more on apples in a bit...

" This cop had 18 complaints filed against him and was still on active duty."

- That honestly doesn't mean a thing. How many complaints were by the same person? Have any of you been to a court house? Rode along with cops on the beat??? Seen the winners they deal with daily??? Complaints can grow on trees. That Amy Klobuchar was Prosecutor during those complaints could lead to some uncomfortable questions but they could easily just have been dismissed as BS complaints. I mean, he could be a Nazi but this doesn't tells us as is.

"Whenever the cops gun down an innocent black man… they always say the same thing.… “It’s not most cops."

- Which "innocent black men?" Second, there are over 10 million arrests in the US each year. 10 million times people have been placed in handcuffs and into cruisers. Booked, fingerprinted, bailed, etc, etc, etc. Over 2 million of those are black and around 200 are killed by police each year. Now, if we assume that all 200 officers were evil s.o.b.'s just looking to kill a black man, including those black officers who killed black people, then that leaves 1,999,800 good apples or good apple moments....... A "few bad apples" sounds about right....

"Burn it all down."

- What an asinine thing to say....




- To clarify. I don't know the entire sequence and haven't seen all the footage - only the knee part and the arrest from vehicle part. That said, the use of the knee isn't a preferred or even trained (by-and-large) by police so his use is a flag. From where did he learn it and why did he use it?
- That the other officers didn't swap out or at least call out the unorthodox action is another flag.
- That he continued long after, not just after, but long after Floyd stopped moving and that the other officers allowed it to continue, is the main flag. That act alone should see him serving time. The other officers - to varying degree based on the little information - should be suspended to fired.
- I hate seeing people die but I also hate the people who've turned King's dream of 'content of character' into a nightmare of 'just the color of your skin.'

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George Floyd 1190 Archaic 29-May-20 10:05
Re: George Floyd 142 WhoWeird 29-May-20 11:47
Re: George Floyd 135 Archaic 29-May-20 11:50
Re: George Floyd 125 WhoWeird 29-May-20 12:06
Re: George Floyd 129 Archaic 29-May-20 12:17
Re: George Floyd 126 WhoWeird 29-May-20 12:24
Re: George Floyd 134 solaremp 29-May-20 14:45
Re: George Floyd 123 WhoWeird 29-May-20 17:03
Warning: TDS Rage Post Below, Proceed With Caution. 127 WhoWeird 29-May-20 19:37
Re: Warning: TDS Rage Post Below, Proceed With Caution. 132 Aine 29-May-20 21:42
Re: Warning: TDS Rage Post Below, Proceed With Caution. 129 WhoWeird 29-May-20 22:03
Re: Warning: TDS Rage Post Below, Proceed With Caution. 123 Aine 29-May-20 22:15
Re: Warning: TDS Rage Post Below, Proceed With Caution. 144 Lee McGiffen 30-May-20 07:21
I agree with you 162 Deep1 29-May-20 13:13
Re: I agree with you 127 Archaic 29-May-20 15:20
Re: I agree with you 129 eli stills 29-May-20 19:58
Re: I agree with you 129 Archaic 29-May-20 21:28
Re: George Floyd 137 PB Bytes 29-May-20 15:02
Re: George Floyd 133 Archaic 29-May-20 16:54
Re: George Floyd 130 PB Bytes 29-May-20 17:21
Re: George Floyd 121 OCaptain 29-May-20 17:43
Re: George Floyd 130 Aine 29-May-20 21:46
Re: George Floyd 126 Archaic 29-May-20 22:43
Re: George Floyd 120 Aine 30-May-20 00:35
Re: George Floyd 129 Archaic 30-May-20 03:14
Re: George Floyd 127 Aine 31-May-20 00:12
Re: George Floyd 117 drrayeye 31-May-20 04:08
Re: George Floyd 54 OCaptain 22-Sep-20 17:46
Re: George Floyd 92 Warwick 22-Sep-20 17:50
Re: George Floyd 80 Archaic 27-Sep-20 00:43
Re: George Floyd 77 Warwick 27-Sep-20 18:41
Re: George Floyd 120 Aine 29-May-20 21:48
2 tragedies 137 Buck 45 29-May-20 20:12
Re: 2 tragedies 125 WhoWeird 29-May-20 20:17
Re: 2 tragedies 155 Aine 29-May-20 21:43
Re: 2 tragedies 113 WhoWeird 29-May-20 21:56
Re: 2 tragedies 124 Aine 29-May-20 22:14
Re: 2 tragedies 117 WhoWeird 29-May-20 22:22
Re: 2 tragedies 128 Archaic 30-May-20 03:50
Re: 2 tragedies 121 WhoWeird 30-May-20 04:47
2 issues 127 Buck 45 30-May-20 06:09
Re: 2 issues 125 WhoWeird 30-May-20 06:13
Re: George Floyd 119 muppedo 30-May-20 00:39
Re: George Floyd 120 Archaic 30-May-20 03:29
Is This Heiping? 125 WhoWeird 30-May-20 14:51
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Re: Is This Heiping? 104 WhoWeird 30-May-20 16:06
Re: Is This Heiping? 118 Archaic 30-May-20 16:14
Re: Is This Heiping? 120 WhoWeird 30-May-20 16:25
Re: Is This Heiping? 111 eli stills 30-May-20 18:29
Re: Is This Heiping? 118 WhoWeird 30-May-20 19:45
Re: Is This Heiping? 118 drrayeye 30-May-20 20:37
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Re: Is This Heiping? 128 muppedo 30-May-20 21:17
Re: Is This Heiping? 111 drrayeye 30-May-20 21:36
Re: Is This Heiping? 143 muppedo 30-May-20 22:08
Re: Is This Heiping? 126 Aine 30-May-20 23:58
Re: Is This Heiping? 133 Archaic 31-May-20 06:57
Re: Is This Heiping? 111 eli stills 30-May-20 22:40
Putting It Into Perspective 114 adequatedane 30-May-20 14:58
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 113 WhoWeird 30-May-20 15:10
How's It Going in Stupid Land from Scooby 126 adequatedane 31-May-20 14:02
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 123 OCaptain 30-May-20 15:15
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 119 eli stills 30-May-20 18:35
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 164 solaremp 31-May-20 14:11
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 120 Eddie Larry 31-May-20 15:08
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 112 Archaic 02-Jun-20 09:36
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 137 adequatedane 31-May-20 14:01
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 150 WhoWeird 31-May-20 15:59
I Must Believe the Narrative by the Village Idiot 130 adequatedane 31-May-20 17:09
Re: I Must Believe the Narrative by the Village Idiot 150 WhoWeird 31-May-20 17:13
Re: I Must Believe the Narrative by the Village Idiot 139 Audrey 31-May-20 18:42
You Are A Scared little Boy 140 adequatedane 01-Jun-20 03:39
Re: You Are A Scared little Boy 117 WhoWeird 01-Jun-20 06:59
Re: You Are A Scared little Boy from Scooby 107 adequatedane 01-Jun-20 13:28
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 134 Audrey 31-May-20 18:41
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 115 Archaic 02-Jun-20 09:37
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Re: Putting It Into Perspective 124 Archaic 02-Jun-20 13:23
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 125 adequatedane 03-Jun-20 14:09
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 214 WhoWeird 03-Jun-20 14:24
From Scooby 101 adequatedane 04-Jun-20 12:13
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 112 muppedo 03-Jun-20 23:40
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 118 adequatedane 04-Jun-20 12:11
Re: Putting It Into Perspective 144 OCaptain 04-Jun-20 12:16
"Institutional Racism" 150 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 20:40
Seriously? 122 eli stills 04-Jun-20 20:56
How many times will I have to repeat myself?! :D 134 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 21:23
Waikiki 139 drrayeye 04-Jun-20 21:28
Plz, moar racism 124 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 21:35
Institutionalized racism and Hawaii 103 drrayeye 04-Jun-20 22:12
Still running your mouth... 126 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 22:20
Does repeating yourself somehow clarify your point? 131 eli stills 04-Jun-20 21:41
Re: Does repeating yourself somehow clarify your point? 123 Aine 04-Jun-20 21:46
Re: Does repeating yourself somehow clarify your point? 105 Archaic 04-Jun-20 21:54
Re: Does repeating yourself somehow clarify your point? 121 WhoWeird 04-Jun-20 21:55
Re: Does repeating yourself somehow clarify your point? 102 OCaptain 05-Jun-20 00:17
Re: Does repeating yourself somehow clarify your point? 100 Aine 05-Jun-20 00:38
I only repeat because you don't answer 108 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 22:04
Hopelessly bad question 110 drrayeye 04-Jun-20 22:22
Hopelessly bad post 101 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 23:15
Not a Hawaiian Trumper concept 97 drrayeye 04-Jun-20 23:21
Re: I only repeat because you don't answer 125 eli stills 04-Jun-20 22:52
Round-n-round... 122 Buck 45 04-Jun-20 23:14
Sorry! Buck’s right again, Buck’s some kind of friggin genius, can’t believe I ever resisted Buck’s wisdom or dared challenge his depthless knowledge of all things. 141 eli stills 05-Jun-20 01:01
Sorry people don't feel that way about you 126 Buck 45 05-Jun-20 02:41
I don't need someone to polish my apples Buck 150 eli stills 05-Jun-20 04:33
But you need someone to read to you... 113 Buck 45 05-Jun-20 06:13
Re: But you need someone to read to you... 137 eli stills 05-Jun-20 15:19
Separate? Sure. Together? Can't. 121 Buck 45 05-Jun-20 16:36
Still lost 106 drrayeye 05-Jun-20 18:36
Re: Still lost 111 Audrey 05-Jun-20 20:58
Re: Separate? Sure. Together? Can't. 209 eli stills 05-Jun-20 19:03
You forgot to add BOLD to your SHOUTS! :D 122 Buck 45 05-Jun-20 20:44
Re: Separate? Sure. Together? Can't. 111 Audrey 05-Jun-20 22:06
Re: Round-n-round... 80 OCaptain 22-Sep-20 17:30
3 months and still no answer 66 Buck 45 23-Sep-20 01:25
Re: 3 months and still no answer 70 eli stills 23-Sep-20 02:13
Easy 78 Buck 45 23-Sep-20 03:08
Re: Easy 84 eli stills 23-Sep-20 03:37
Slavery of the Mind 74 Buck 45 23-Sep-20 21:27
Re: Slavery of the Mind 70 muppedo 23-Sep-20 22:41
It's all the UK's fault :D 59 Buck 45 24-Sep-20 02:04
Re: Slavery of the Mind 63 eli stills 24-Sep-20 00:56
I agree; Dems are racist, as an institution 72 Buck 45 24-Sep-20 01:16
Re: I agree; Dems are racist, as an institution 82 eli stills 24-Sep-20 02:45
But you reject my examples? 71 Buck 45 24-Sep-20 23:53
Re: But you reject my examples? 48 eli stills 25-Sep-20 02:06
eli-go-round 66 Buck 45 25-Sep-20 02:34
Re: eli-go-round 74 eli stills 25-Sep-20 03:52
Your evidence is my evidence that you reject... 54 Buck 45 25-Sep-20 19:15
Re: Your evidence is my evidence that you reject... 45 eli stills 25-Sep-20 21:24
:( 77 Buck 45 25-Sep-20 22:03
Re: Your evidence is my evidence that you reject... 74 OCaptain 26-Sep-20 11:44
"His white mentor?" :D 55 Buck 45 27-Sep-20 00:39
Smoke blowing, hand waving, Gish galloping Trumper Apologetics 74 drrayeye 23-Sep-20 04:46
Terrible Spin and Obvious lack of Knowledge with a touch of deflection. 74 adequatedane 23-Sep-20 13:14
George Floyd 70 drrayeye 23-Sep-20 19:06
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Perspective 110 Warwick 04-Jun-20 18:45
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Deflection 85 adequatedane 06-Jun-20 12:35
Thanks 148 drrayeye 31-May-20 15:32
Very good post 126 greengirl5 01-Jun-20 06:46
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Good points 174 drrayeye 04-Jun-20 17:13
Restraint, respect 99 drrayeye 01-Jun-20 17:36
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The 4 cops 100 Race Jackson 05-Jun-20 03:04
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