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grangram Wrote:
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> They had no choice Ray they knew they would lose
> even more councils if they didn't agree. But what
> bought and payed for politicians say is one thing
> and what they do is another. We had £100 mill to
> spend on green infrastructure in 2016, when a
> action group asked for a freedom of info on this
> grant they found they had spent 7 mill in 4yrs!
> Once the press got hold of it they said they were
> in the process of spending it? The Torys election
> campaign propaganda was, the greenest gov ever,
> what a joke, on us. The pig botherer (D Cameron) 3
> yrs later cut every dept that worked on these
> issues, even saying we will get rid of the all
> that green crap. But the faithful right wing don't
> see past immigration and those rotten foreigners.
>
> We stopped their oil fracking friends, they even
> changed earth quake limits after they went over 2
> times and still they went over again. Nigel Farage
> let the cat out of the bag though, he spoke of the
> new world order he is a part of, the reemergence
> of Axis powers? Visits from Trumps criminals to
> any fascist/ dictator just like ww2 the Axis of
> evil grows.
> The English can so easily be deceived, as they
> start to think of the catastrophic changes on this
> planet a simple head line the immigrants are
> coming and they forget and dive into hatred of
> 'Johnny foreigner. Funny the Scots and N Ireland
> voted to stay in but their vote will be ignored,
> it is the will of the people when it goes their
> way but ignored other wise. It is a big mess,
> where party members think more of their selves
> than the people they represent. Money from oil
> corporations buys them all, jobs for the boys when
> they retire and of course with a little confusion
> thrown in by the climate deniers what a bunch of
> idiots, confusion rules.
>
> [www.theguardian.com]
> /07/the-guardian-view-on-extinction-time-to-rebel
> A million plant and animal species are under
> threat. Humans are largely to blame – but we
> will pay the cost too
>
> Here's a song.
> [www.youtube.com]
> Ingrid Michaelson vid (Earth is) Not OK 3.25 min

Hey, Is the biggest danger here that we are lumping everything together and as a result getting played.
CO2 increasement is the bogeyman, but normally the earth would regulate this, more trees, more chalk increases? etc.
This is seen as the hazard when actually ocean contamination by plastics, physical environmental degradation into the food chain is far more destructive and immediate.
Why isn't this the focus?

Muppedo

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Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 1426 grangram 20-Apr-19 14:38
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 226 Archaic 20-Apr-19 15:15
It's not a matter of personal opinion 223 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 15:43
Re: It's not a matter of personal opinion 268 Archaic 20-Apr-19 16:00
I'm sure your opinion 202 drrayeye 20-Apr-19 17:00
Re: I'm sure your opinion 168 Archaic 20-Apr-19 21:31
Re: I'm sure your opinion 190 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-19 21:34
Re: I'm sure your opinion 163 Archaic 20-Apr-19 21:39
Re: I'm sure your opinion 153 Eddie Larry 20-Apr-19 21:50
Re: I'm sure your opinion 159 Archaic 21-Apr-19 03:07
Re: I'm sure your opinion 152 Eddie Larry 21-Apr-19 04:08
Re: I'm sure your opinion 145 Racho 22-Apr-19 03:29
Re: I'm sure your opinion 145 Eddie Larry 22-Apr-19 19:31
Re: I'm sure your opinion 140 Racho 22-Apr-19 19:37
Re: I'm sure your opinion 140 Eddie Larry 22-Apr-19 20:05
Don't forget the Lord 156 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 23:13
Re: Don't forget the Lord 151 Racho 23-Apr-19 20:35
or "Galileo" Perry on global warming 137 drrayeye 23-Apr-19 21:00
Re: I'm sure your opinion 138 Archaic 23-Apr-19 21:10
Re: I'm sure your opinion 156 muppedo 09-May-19 00:21
Re: I'm sure your opinion 141 Archaic 10-May-19 11:24
Canadian Firefighters see things differently 181 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 02:21
Re: Canadian Firefighters see things differently 214 Archaic 27-Apr-19 02:29
Maybe you could take up canoeing? 185 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 04:31
Re: Maybe you could take up canoeing? 167 Archaic 29-Apr-19 12:42
Here ya go one science guy plus 96 others 132 grangram 08-May-19 16:29
Re: Here ya go one science guy plus 96 others 135 Archaic 10-May-19 11:27
What are your qualifications? 139 grangram 13-May-19 09:14
Re: What are your qualifications? 135 Archaic 13-May-19 11:17
argumentation--ad nauseum 120 drrayeye 13-May-19 17:54
Re: argumentation--ad nauseum 128 Archaic 25-May-19 03:12
Countermeasures 96 drrayeye 26-May-19 01:56
Just a little rain? Just tell them that in Nebraska. 185 grangram 27-Apr-19 08:52
Re: Just a little rain? Just tell them that in Nebraska. 159 Archaic 29-Apr-19 12:44
Countermeasures 119 drrayeye 03-May-19 19:26
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 233 grangram 20-Apr-19 17:25
How to Lie with Statistics 161 Race Jackson 20-Apr-19 19:32
You should know better 157 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 05:43
Wrong, wrong, and ignorantly wrong because you refuse to do your own research 155 Race Jackson 21-Apr-19 20:36
Superficial as usual 142 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 21:52
The North West Passage? 157 grangram 26-Apr-19 14:39
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 183 Archaic 20-Apr-19 21:32
Just ask Donald Trump 187 drrayeye 21-Apr-19 05:46
Re: Just ask Donald Trump 131 Archaic 23-Apr-19 21:11
Wrong question 141 drrayeye 26-May-19 15:14
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 150 Race Jackson 22-Apr-19 05:20
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 146 Warwick 22-Apr-19 19:25
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 159 Archaic 23-Apr-19 21:19
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 170 Lee McGiffen 21-Apr-19 04:21
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 143 Redwood1 21-Apr-19 23:44
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 146 Redwood1 21-Apr-19 23:46
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 142 Redwood1 21-Apr-19 23:50
When we were Republican and smart in SOCAL 137 drrayeye 22-Apr-19 02:37
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 128 Archaic 23-Apr-19 21:20
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 208 grangram 26-Apr-19 17:39
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 111 harryL 13-May-19 10:24
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 175 Redwood1 22-Apr-19 00:08
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 164 Eddie Larry 22-Apr-19 01:33
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 133 Archaic 23-Apr-19 21:25
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 152 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 22:24
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 159 Archaic 23-Apr-19 22:38
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 150 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 22:46
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 136 Archaic 23-Apr-19 23:30
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 138 Eddie Larry 23-Apr-19 23:33
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 142 Archaic 24-Apr-19 01:10
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 168 Eddie Larry 24-Apr-19 01:18
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 172 Archaic 24-Apr-19 01:30
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 141 Eddie Larry 24-Apr-19 02:33
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 155 Archaic 24-Apr-19 02:42
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 151 Eddie Larry 24-Apr-19 02:47
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 180 Lee McGiffen 22-Apr-19 03:49
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 171 Brian Patterson 22-Apr-19 04:15
He's Australian 172 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 01:48
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 166 ldennyjr 27-Apr-19 21:06
Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota to declare states of emergency. 184 grangram 27-Apr-19 21:50
Re: Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota to declare states of emergency. 150 ldennyjr 28-Apr-19 14:11
Re: Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota to declare states of emergency. 155 drrayeye 28-Apr-19 15:28
Re: Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota to declare states of emergency. 155 ldennyjr 28-Apr-19 17:58
Why didn't you answer the question ? 188 grangram 28-Apr-19 15:37
Re: Why didn't you answer the question ? 192 ldennyjr 28-Apr-19 17:47
still didn't answer the questions. 169 grangram 28-Apr-19 20:50
Re: still didn't answer the questions. 125 ldennyjr 29-Apr-19 02:18
Re: still didn't answer the questions. 116 drrayeye 29-Apr-19 05:11
Re: still didn't answer the questions. 137 ldennyjr 29-Apr-19 12:06
Better than Rip Van Winkle 127 drrayeye 29-Apr-19 16:38
Re: still didn't answer the questions. 131 Eddie Larry 29-Apr-19 16:45
and some beans 123 drrayeye 29-Apr-19 19:01
sweet dreams! 128 grangram 30-Apr-19 16:01
Re: sweet dreams! 119 ldennyjr 04-May-19 13:26
Re: Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Minnesota to declare states of emergency. 136 Archaic 28-Apr-19 16:20
glad you posted 137 grangram 28-Apr-19 17:53
Re: glad you posted 165 Archaic 29-Apr-19 12:50
So your a nurse then? 128 grangram 29-Apr-19 13:24
Re: So your a nurse then? 130 Archaic 30-Apr-19 11:39
Progrssivism is a religion??? 132 grangram 30-Apr-19 14:07
Re: Progrssivism is a religion??? 127 Archaic 01-May-19 20:58
Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors 146 drrayeye 01-May-19 21:10
Re: Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors 165 Archaic 02-May-19 00:55
Re: Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors 155 grangram 08-May-19 13:35
Re: Smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors 132 Archaic 10-May-19 11:29
Opinion books 131 drrayeye 27-Apr-19 22:24
Re: Opinion books 151 ldennyjr 28-Apr-19 03:01
A great place to start 161 drrayeye 28-Apr-19 04:57
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 133 muppedo 03-May-19 22:31
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 128 ldennyjr 04-May-19 18:50
CO2 is a marker, not a cause 133 drrayeye 04-May-19 20:56
Re: CO2 is a marker, not a cause 116 ldennyjr 05-May-19 03:59
That's because 115 drrayeye 05-May-19 05:45
Re: That's because 124 ldennyjr 05-May-19 13:35
I gave you two links 111 drrayeye 05-May-19 14:18
Re: I gave you two links 128 ldennyjr 05-May-19 16:55
If you would have said that 30 years ago, 121 drrayeye 06-May-19 00:41
Re: If you would have said that 30 years ago, 115 WhoWeird 06-May-19 02:08
Re: If you would have said that 30 years ago, 112 drrayeye 06-May-19 05:29
Re: If you would have said that 30 years ago, 125 Archaic 10-May-19 11:48
Re: I gave you two links 113 Archaic 10-May-19 11:46
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 154 Lee McGiffen 05-May-19 05:56
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 138 ldennyjr 05-May-19 13:27
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 143 ldennyjr 09-May-19 16:39
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 122 muppedo 09-May-19 23:38
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 127 ldennyjr 10-May-19 02:57
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 139 muppedo 11-May-19 22:37
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 119 ldennyjr 12-May-19 18:41
At least you're honest 117 drrayeye 12-May-19 22:32
Re: At least you're honest 110 WhoWeird 12-May-19 22:34
Mike's law 122 drrayeye 12-May-19 22:58
Re: Mike's law 127 WhoWeird 12-May-19 23:44
Re: Forget Brexit and Focus on Climate Change 127 Archaic 10-May-19 11:50
My Apple Pie advice 162 drrayeye 30-Apr-19 21:35
Re: My Apple Pie advice 146 Archaic 02-May-19 01:00
Re: My Apple Pie advice 153 drrayeye 02-May-19 03:50
UK Parliament declares climate change emergency 147 drrayeye 02-May-19 00:07
Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 134 grangram 08-May-19 10:03
Garbage 141 drrayeye 08-May-19 13:38
Re: Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 126 muppedo 09-May-19 00:17
Re: Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 127 drrayeye 09-May-19 06:00
LOL 140 Sirfiroth 09-May-19 13:38
Just because Roy Spencer 131 drrayeye 09-May-19 17:30
If you would bother to read, you might find out 184 Sirfiroth 09-May-19 19:23
I live in California 123 drrayeye 09-May-19 23:06
Re: Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 132 muppedo 09-May-19 23:56
Re: Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 132 drrayeye 10-May-19 05:28
Re: Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 137 grangram 09-May-19 16:25
Re: Extinction problems? Time to rebel? 162 Archaic 10-May-19 12:33
No nuclear--no problem 121 drrayeye 11-May-19 13:48
Re: No nuclear--no problem 123 Archaic 12-May-19 23:04
Not everyone 116 drrayeye 12-May-19 23:28
Re: Not everyone 137 Archaic 12-May-19 23:33
Re: Not everyone 119 molder 13-May-19 10:11
Re: Not everyone 149 Archaic 13-May-19 11:25
Re: Not everyone 150 harryL 13-May-19 12:02
Re: Not everyone 148 drrayeye 15-May-19 03:20
Britain's first climate refugees 113 drrayeye 19-May-19 04:37
Climate Change and Brexit 117 drrayeye 25-May-19 00:14
UK and Trump miles apart on climate change 163 drrayeye 03-Jun-19 03:31


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