Global Village :  The Official GrahamHancock.com forums
For good-natured and mutually-respectful discussions of politics and current affairs. Soap-boxing and the promotion of extremist causes motivated by hate will not be tolerated by our moderators. 
Welcome! Log InRegister
Archaic Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
Quote

Obviously you wish to distract form my
> criticism of Pete’s post but perhaps it’s time
> you provided your opinion of Pete’s use of a
> graphic image of the broken body of the latest
> victim of terrorist violence to garner attention.
> In his own explanation he provides that his intent
> was to manipulate members into responding to his
> latest Islamic terrorism and immigration OP.
>
>
> I was letting this squabble burn itself out, but
> this is just flat-out wrong.


So you waited for our disagreement to burn out so you can reignite it?

> Lets state the facts here:
>
> 1. Not a single moderator found issue with my
> posting of the image aside from not including a
> warning.


Only because they have chosen not to question or address the issue of what motivated you to include the graphic image.
Quote

[grahamhancock.com]
We will take a dim view if people are being gratuitous about grim and grisly images. These images contain the remnants of human lives that have come to an unnatural and untimely end at the violent hands of fellow humans. They are people's sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, friends and lovers. They are not for the shock entertainment of others nor should be posted out of morbid fascination. If anyone wished to satisfy their own morbid curiosity of the atrocities that can bestowed upon the human body then websites do exist where they can do so (Rotten dot com for example).

So no, gratuitous posting of ANY graphic images will not be deemed acceptible, and porn will most certainly not be next.

Jonny


> 2. The moderator who previously found fault with
> my posts from over a year ago and classified them
> as "soapboxing" DID NOT FIND FAULT with the image,
> or this thread -- you will note that no warnings
> were issued here.


And yet he provides the definition and application of the term "soapboxing" (as Dane requested) using you as the example and again warns you a month ago [grahamhancock.com] not to continue your past behavior.
Quote

Slipping my mod hat on here.

There's a reason why you are given very little room to discuss issues related to Islam in these boards anymore, Pete.

Put simply, your POV creates a buttload of trouble and unrest, that quite frankly, we don't need.

As I have said repeatedly here over the past couple of weeks, the community comes first.
Your opinions are waaaaay down the list, I'm afraid.

Now - you are coming back onto the boards, after a fairly hefty suspension. Please be reasonable, and don't use tragedies as an opportunity to soapbox.

If you want to discuss your particular take on Islam, you have the whole wide internet to do it in.

But you won't be doing it here. End of discussion.


> 3. I never expressed that my intention in posting
> the image was to "manipulate members into
> responding to [my] latest Islamic terrorism and
> immigration [thread]". I expressed that I posted
> the imagine to bring a sense of reality to the
> normalizing of these attacks. You should
> apologize.


Quote

Re: No Just Provided the Truth
Author: Archaic ()
Date: April 13, 2017 04:16PM
What do you mean, keep in mind when I posted it? I'm not understanding that suggestion.
Quote

What was it that lead you to conclude that people were a) ignoring the attack and b) that the reason they were indifferent was because of the limited body count?

a. Is self-evident.
b. It was my conclusion based on years of precedence, discussion, and my understanding of various personalities involved. The indifference, I believe, doesn't only come from the body count, as you call it, but the NORMALCY of the attacks. It's NOT NORMAL. That was my point, and to highlight the destruction of real innocent human life because they don't subscribe to the correct belief system.

Could I be wrong? Yes, but I don't think I was/am.

The difference is I REFUSE to accept this as the new normal.

You should stop lying and own what you did and why you did it. Instead you wish to argue that we are so jaded that it was necessary that you shock us with a graphic image of the human carnage involved. To accomplish what if not provoke others into responding to your issue.

> 4. I never mentioned Islam or immigration in this
> thread until both were raised by you and your
> cohorts.


Didn't need to as history establishes precedents.

> 5. I challenge you to tally the number of threads
> I have created on the topic of radical
> Islam/terrorism with my topics on other issues.
> Through your wording "his latest Islamic terrorism
> and immigration OP", you're insinuating that this
> is a topic I fixate on. Untrue - again. Support
> yourself or apologize.


Quote

Here's what the problem actually is:

You (or at least your online persona), are becoming noticeably fixated on this issue. You would like the boards to reflect this more, but because every second post here doesn't involve this fixation, you believe members don't care about it, or (my personal favourite because it generates the most chuckles from me), that discussing it is in some way taboo.


The facts and post history here do not support this.

What you have actually been engaging in of late bears some resemblance to the historical narrative over on GT&P, which read something like this:


'Sheeple! Why, oh why, oh why can you not remove the scales from your eyes?!!!'


The difference being, that instead of referring to shape-shifting reptilians or black helicopters or FEMA camps, you're concentrating on Islamist fanatics.

Something for you to mull over there, perhaps.

The simple truth of the matter is that members here do not need Pete Vanderzwet to inform them of the ongoing Islamist horror in the world, because the world media is already doing a bang-up job in reporting every minute detail of every single attack.

The attack in France today is evidence of this. Terrestrial and satellite channels are beaming all the gory details into millions of TVs even as I type.


Soooooooooo...


Back to the matter at hand. You're very much entitled to your fixations/obsessions. We all are. And they are none of my business.

But how you behave on this site is very much my business.


Please bear that in mind.


Best,

Andy"


>
> I am tired of being misrepresented on this forum
> simply so people can more easily dismiss what is
> brought forward.

You post with the clear intent of provoking others and creating controversy and division so stop playing the victim and own the repercussions of your actions and interactions Pete.

It's what adults do.

Eli

Options: ReplyQuote


Subject Views Written By Posted
Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 2685 Archaic 07-Apr-17 13:19
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 379 Jergat 07-Apr-17 14:29
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 431 Brian Patterson 07-Apr-17 15:14
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 550 Nolondil 07-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 408 Archaic 07-Apr-17 20:52
Only four. 591 Archaic 08-Apr-17 01:22
MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 383 randompHactor 08-Apr-17 01:43
Real life isn't Disney. 574 Archaic 08-Apr-17 01:54
Re: Real life isn't Disney. 512 randompHactor 08-Apr-17 02:33
Re: Real life isn't Disney. 562 Archaic 08-Apr-17 02:35
Re: Real life isn't Disney. 513 eli stills 08-Apr-17 02:35
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 413 Deep1 08-Apr-17 08:47
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 479 randompHactor 08-Apr-17 14:31
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 486 eli stills 08-Apr-17 15:50
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 401 Deep1 08-Apr-17 22:37
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 465 randompHactor 09-Apr-17 01:12
Mod Note 624 JonnyMcA 08-Apr-17 08:04
Re: Mod Note 469 drrayeye 08-Apr-17 08:39
Re: Mod Note 427 Deep1 08-Apr-17 08:54
Re: Mod Note 400 Aine 08-Apr-17 11:52
Re: Mod Note 530 JonnyMcA 08-Apr-17 13:01
Re: Mod Note 363 Archaic 08-Apr-17 13:49
Re: Mod Note 402 Aine 08-Apr-17 16:15
he gets off on it... 395 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:32
Re: he gets off on it... 486 eli stills 08-Apr-17 17:48
Re: he gets off on it... 375 Archaic 08-Apr-17 20:59
Re: he gets off on it... 386 muppedo 10-Apr-17 22:18
Re: he gets off on it... 508 eli stills 10-Apr-17 22:33
Re: he gets off on it... 436 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:21
Re: he gets off on it... 390 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:18
Like it or not... 413 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:17
Re: Like it or not... 342 eli stills 09-Apr-17 00:44
It must be difficult to maintain such a suspended view of reality. 330 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:05
Re: It must be difficult to maintain such a suspended view of reality. 437 eli stills 09-Apr-17 03:24
Re: he gets off on it... 466 Aine 08-Apr-17 21:27
Harping on a leopard who hasn't changed any of her spots...;) 433 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:11
Re: Harping on a leopard who hasn't changed any of her spots...;) 336 Aine 09-Apr-17 11:34
I remember 365 drrayeye 08-Apr-17 20:41
Re: Mod Note 502 Archaic 08-Apr-17 12:11
Re: Mod Note 367 adequatedane 08-Apr-17 12:30
Re: Mod Note 485 JonnyMcA 08-Apr-17 13:21
Can we get back on the Topic? 406 Deep1 08-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 374 Jergat 08-Apr-17 22:55
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 425 SandyJesse 08-Apr-17 23:09
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 420 Deep1 08-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 382 Deep1 08-Apr-17 23:13
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 392 Aine 08-Apr-17 23:14
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 399 Deep1 08-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 539 eli stills 08-Apr-17 23:27
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 295 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 10:46
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 355 Archaic 09-Apr-17 11:27
Soapboxing 407 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 15:02
Re: Soapboxing 479 Archaic 09-Apr-17 15:12
Why? 376 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 15:14
Re: Why? 368 eli stills 09-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Why? 447 Archaic 09-Apr-17 15:55
Re: Why? 464 eli stills 09-Apr-17 16:06
Re: Why? 436 Archaic 09-Apr-17 16:31
Re: Why? 379 eli stills 09-Apr-17 18:28
Re: Why? 461 Archaic 09-Apr-17 20:27
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 387 Archaic 09-Apr-17 11:21
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 364 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 372 Aine 09-Apr-17 15:20
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 381 Archaic 09-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 448 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 16:08
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 489 Aine 09-Apr-17 18:12
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 471 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 22:40
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 506 Aine 10-Apr-17 00:14
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 377 adequatedane 10-Apr-17 13:24
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 351 Aine 10-Apr-17 14:48
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 484 adequatedane 10-Apr-17 15:14
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 610 eli stills 10-Apr-17 17:42
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 463 Aine 10-Apr-17 17:57
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 378 adequatedane 10-Apr-17 19:46
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 477 eli stills 10-Apr-17 22:26
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 400 Aine 10-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 472 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:26
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 317 Aine 11-Apr-17 13:35
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 363 Archaic 11-Apr-17 20:28
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 477 Aine 12-Apr-17 02:12
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 425 Archaic 12-Apr-17 10:12
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 404 Aine 12-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 501 Archaic 13-Apr-17 09:45
Memories of battles past... 435 Nolondil 13-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Memories of battles past... 397 Archaic 13-Apr-17 22:28
Re: Memories of battles past... 385 Jergat 17-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Memories of battles past... 350 muppedo 17-Apr-17 18:39
Re: Memories of battles past... 477 Jergat 17-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 413 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:25
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 457 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 13:45
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 352 eli stills 11-Apr-17 15:06
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 565 Sirfiroth 11-Apr-17 17:08
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 400 eli stills 11-Apr-17 17:16
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 350 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 21:35
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 368 eli stills 12-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Mod decision not good enough for the mob 376 adequatedane 12-Apr-17 12:05
Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 447 eli stills 12-Apr-17 13:55
Re: Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 355 Archaic 13-Apr-17 09:53
Re: Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 353 eli stills 13-Apr-17 13:07
Re: Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 347 Archaic 13-Apr-17 20:46
Re: Funny, Your Reasons Have Changed 559 adequatedane 13-Apr-17 13:25
Or you predudicially edited my response 582 eli stills 13-Apr-17 14:01
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 441 adequatedane 13-Apr-17 17:10
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 367 eli stills 13-Apr-17 17:33
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 443 Archaic 13-Apr-17 20:50
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 358 eli stills 13-Apr-17 21:01
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 361 Archaic 13-Apr-17 21:13
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 461 eli stills 13-Apr-17 21:39
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 450 Archaic 13-Apr-17 22:16
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 359 eli stills 14-Apr-17 01:05
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 372 Archaic 14-Apr-17 01:50
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 400 eli stills 14-Apr-17 02:27
Re: So Again Your the Victim 452 adequatedane 14-Apr-17 14:14
Am I? 372 eli stills 14-Apr-17 15:40
Re: If its not the Truth then why present the warning in your post? 457 adequatedane 13-Apr-17 21:46
Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 368 eli stills 13-Apr-17 21:58
Re: Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 479 Archaic 13-Apr-17 22:18
Re: Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 333 adequatedane 14-Apr-17 13:47
Re: Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 472 eli stills 14-Apr-17 15:35
Re: Provide Email to Mods Please 349 adequatedane 15-Apr-17 13:20
Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt with g-g-g-geometric logic 513 eli stills 15-Apr-17 16:39
Re: You Offered No Proof 464 adequatedane 15-Apr-17 17:45
Report and request. 350 eli stills 15-Apr-17 18:46
Re: You were dropping a dime. 400 adequatedane 16-Apr-17 13:34
Re: You were dropping a dime. 328 eli stills 16-Apr-17 16:02
Re: You were dropping a dime. 434 adequatedane 16-Apr-17 23:41
Re: You were dropping a dime. 348 muppedo 17-Apr-17 00:28
Re: You were dropping a dime. 327 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:25
Re: You were dropping a dime. 367 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:53
Re: You were dropping a dime. 339 eli stills 17-Apr-17 00:58
Re: You were dropping a dime. 350 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 03:28
Re: You were dropping a dime. 413 eli stills 17-Apr-17 04:26
Re: Ah, More Crap 460 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 12:57
Did you report and request my comment as I have repeatedly suggested? 330 eli stills 17-Apr-17 14:40
Re: Let's Get back to your LIE 414 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:02
Did you report and request my comment as I have repeatedly suggested? 359 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:23
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 408 adequatedane 19-Apr-17 13:19
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 337 eli stills 19-Apr-17 15:54
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 417 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 12:37
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 397 eli stills 20-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Just more BS 326 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 17:13
Pathetic 333 eli stills 20-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Pathetic 293 adequatedane 21-Apr-17 12:19
What? 366 Archaic 21-Apr-17 22:16
Re: What? 323 eli stills 22-Apr-17 01:30
Re: What? 527 Archaic 22-Apr-17 02:09
Re: What? 324 eli stills 22-Apr-17 03:29
Re: What? 375 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 12:02
Disingenuous and chronic patheticism 349 eli stills 22-Apr-17 13:00
Re:I'd love to see the emails and report comments you sent the mods 267 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 13:31
Then why haven't you requested it? 285 eli stills 22-Apr-17 14:52
Re: Then why haven't you requested it? 273 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Then why haven't you requested it? 404 eli stills 22-Apr-17 16:36
Re: More False Claims 305 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 21:37
Re: More False Claims 413 eli stills 22-Apr-17 22:29
Re: More False Claims 391 Archaic 22-Apr-17 22:44
Re: More False Claims 363 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 23:51
Re: Sorry the Truth Hurts so Much. 438 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 23:36
Actually I doubt you can recognize the truth let alone experience it 348 eli stills 23-Apr-17 00:35
Re: Were You the Someone Calling for a Ban? 323 adequatedane 23-Apr-17 13:14
Another day and another load in the diaper 435 eli stills 23-Apr-17 14:25
Re: Yeah There is a load in the diaper and its not mine 330 adequatedane 23-Apr-17 15:28
Still won't request the report and someone else took a dump in your diaper? 428 eli stills 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: We Know the Dumper and it ain't me. 449 adequatedane 24-Apr-17 13:51
Well you did actually get one thing right since I secretly believe that gratuatiously posting the image was wrong 635 eli stills 24-Apr-17 17:37
Re: All The Signs Of A Dime Dropper and you obviously have a lot to Hide 410 adequatedane 24-Apr-17 23:41
Re: Examples 459 Nolondil 22-Apr-17 18:55
Re: Examples 420 Archaic 22-Apr-17 20:46
Re: Examples 442 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 21:43
Re: Examples 401 Archaic 22-Apr-17 21:51
Re: Examples 397 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 23:48
Re: You were dropping a dime. 436 muppedo 16-Apr-17 19:18
Re: You were dropping a dime. 317 adequatedane 16-Apr-17 23:50
Re: You were dropping a dime. 315 muppedo 17-Apr-17 00:39
Re: You were dropping a dime. 438 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 03:34
And once again here is the definition of "soap boxing" with context 345 eli stills 17-Apr-17 04:42
Re: And once again here is the definition of "soap boxing" with context 375 Archaic 17-Apr-17 10:31
No hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, no secret cabal. 458 eli stills 17-Apr-17 14:37
Re: No You wanted action taken by the mods. 317 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:55
I wanted action taken by the mods regarding the post. 341 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:31
Re: I wanted action taken by the mods regarding the post. 325 adequatedane 19-Apr-17 13:39
Beating a dead horse 430 Racho 19-Apr-17 15:24
Re: I wanted action taken by the mods regarding the post. 330 eli stills 19-Apr-17 16:07
Re: Just more BS 322 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 12:50
Re: And once again here is the definition of "soap boxing" with context 336 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 14:07
If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 294 eli stills 17-Apr-17 14:53
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 453 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:20
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 330 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:35
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 326 adequatedane 19-Apr-17 13:53
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 329 eli stills 19-Apr-17 16:24
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 334 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 13:05
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 283 eli stills 20-Apr-17 16:36
Re: Again more BS 400 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 17:09
Re: Again, you hold yourself to a different standard than you demand of others 285 eli stills 20-Apr-17 18:18
Re: Just Deflection 438 adequatedane 21-Apr-17 12:38
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 338 Archaic 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 354 muppedo 11-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 400 Archaic 12-Apr-17 10:29
Re: Your on the right track 331 adequatedane 12-Apr-17 13:30
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 325 muppedo 12-Apr-17 22:34
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 409 muppedo 12-Apr-17 22:48
Two nations separated by a common language. 346 Archaic 13-Apr-17 09:33
Re: Two nations separated by a common language. 448 muppedo 13-Apr-17 23:35
Unfortunate 442 Archaic 13-Apr-17 23:58
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 305 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 22:17
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 400 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:24
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 409 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 12:39
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 436 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:22
Unfortunately 368 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 15:10
Re: Unfortunately 488 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 16:12
My next response 496 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 18:39
Re: My next response 392 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 22:44
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 403 calisurfer30 22-Apr-17 01:07
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 323 eli stills 22-Apr-17 01:37
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 427 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 12:05
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 349 Archaic 22-Apr-17 12:25
It's an agenda. 313 calisurfer30 26-Apr-17 00:14
Re: It's an agenda. 323 muppedo 26-Apr-17 01:01
Re: It's an agenda. 511 Archaic 26-Apr-17 09:52
Re: It's an agenda. 275 muppedo 27-Apr-17 23:39
Re: It's an agenda. 251 Brian Patterson 28-Apr-17 00:01
Re: It's an agenda. 352 muppedo 28-Apr-17 00:10
Re: It's an agenda. 514 Archaic 28-Apr-17 09:41
Re: It's an agenda. 382 adequatedane 26-Apr-17 13:12


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.