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Hi ES

Ok thanks for the clarification. Yes, I read the warning from the mods to Archaic in late March. Did you notice the WHY of the warning? Here it is......"Put simply, your POV creates a buttload of trouble and unrest, that quite frankly, we don't need." Now I'm just guessing and mods correct me if my guess is off course but what do you suppose the mod means by buttload of trouble and unrest? My take is they receive a lot of emails concerning Archaic's posts, increased mod actions such as warnings and such?

So my take on this is part of the trouble and unrest isn't the actual POV but the REACTION from others on the forum who email the mods with their disapproval or make such a case of it on GV. Here is why I believe this is the case. The mod in the warning continues...

"As I have said repeatedly here over the past couple of weeks, the community comes first.
Your opinions are waaaaay down the list, I'm afraid."

From these statements by the mod I assume that part of the action against Archaic resulted from the trouble and unrest created by others in the community.

Now I have to ask why is one persons view resulting in so much trouble and unrest? I don't think it is his view. After all its just his view. We all have them. What makes his more terrible or powerful than anyone else's view? I think its his support of his view which creates the problem. Archaic supports his view very well.

Its his successful support of his view which in my opinion is the WHY a group inside the community is actively acting behind the scene and on the forum against him. And yes I believe the purpose is to have him censored or banned. Which raises the question, if true? Is it possible that absent this groups actions the trouble and unrest go away?

For example here is a quote from your latest post....

"Mind you of course I’m not biased for Archaic and do not engage him anymore but I do take issue with someone who responds to being ignored with a graphic picture of the victim of the violence he is obsessively fixated on with the demand that we take his issue more seriously."

You state your not biased yet you make this statement even though it was the mods who allowed the photo to remain not Archaic. Do you see the bias in this statement? Yes he posted the photo but the mods allowed it to remain. Why blame him for the mods decision? Sorry but this appears to be the result of bias. It shows a prejudice.

As far as soapboxing. I would like to see the definition which is being used when people use this term.

Is providing one picture considered soapboxing?

dane

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Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 2723 Archaic 07-Apr-17 13:19
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 394 Jergat 07-Apr-17 14:29
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 453 Brian Patterson 07-Apr-17 15:14
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 569 Nolondil 07-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 424 Archaic 07-Apr-17 20:52
Only four. 607 Archaic 08-Apr-17 01:22
MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 396 randompHactor 08-Apr-17 01:43
Real life isn't Disney. 592 Archaic 08-Apr-17 01:54
Re: Real life isn't Disney. 530 randompHactor 08-Apr-17 02:33
Re: Real life isn't Disney. 580 Archaic 08-Apr-17 02:35
Re: Real life isn't Disney. 532 eli stills 08-Apr-17 02:35
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 430 Deep1 08-Apr-17 08:47
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 495 randompHactor 08-Apr-17 14:31
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 501 eli stills 08-Apr-17 15:50
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 421 Deep1 08-Apr-17 22:37
Re: MODS! Look at above post. All others avoid horror/body parts pic 550 randompHactor 09-Apr-17 01:12
Mod Note 659 JonnyMcA 08-Apr-17 08:04
Re: Mod Note 487 drrayeye 08-Apr-17 08:39
Re: Mod Note 447 Deep1 08-Apr-17 08:54
Re: Mod Note 414 Aine 08-Apr-17 11:52
Re: Mod Note 553 JonnyMcA 08-Apr-17 13:01
Re: Mod Note 378 Archaic 08-Apr-17 13:49
Re: Mod Note 417 Aine 08-Apr-17 16:15
he gets off on it... 415 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:32
Re: he gets off on it... 503 eli stills 08-Apr-17 17:48
Re: he gets off on it... 393 Archaic 08-Apr-17 20:59
Re: he gets off on it... 406 muppedo 10-Apr-17 22:18
Re: he gets off on it... 529 eli stills 10-Apr-17 22:33
Re: he gets off on it... 452 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:21
Re: he gets off on it... 407 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:18
Like it or not... 428 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:17
Re: Like it or not... 359 eli stills 09-Apr-17 00:44
It must be difficult to maintain such a suspended view of reality. 343 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:05
Re: It must be difficult to maintain such a suspended view of reality. 451 eli stills 09-Apr-17 03:24
Re: he gets off on it... 480 Aine 08-Apr-17 21:27
Harping on a leopard who hasn't changed any of her spots...;) 448 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:11
Re: Harping on a leopard who hasn't changed any of her spots...;) 351 Aine 09-Apr-17 11:34
I remember 379 drrayeye 08-Apr-17 20:41
Re: Mod Note 523 Archaic 08-Apr-17 12:11
Re: Mod Note 382 adequatedane 08-Apr-17 12:30
Re: Mod Note 512 JonnyMcA 08-Apr-17 13:21
Can we get back on the Topic? 424 Deep1 08-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 390 Jergat 08-Apr-17 22:55
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 439 SandyJesse 08-Apr-17 23:09
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 437 Deep1 08-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 396 Deep1 08-Apr-17 23:13
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 412 Aine 08-Apr-17 23:14
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 417 Deep1 08-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 555 eli stills 08-Apr-17 23:27
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 308 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 10:46
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 370 Archaic 09-Apr-17 11:27
Soapboxing 424 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 15:02
Re: Soapboxing 494 Archaic 09-Apr-17 15:12
Why? 391 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 15:14
Re: Why? 411 eli stills 09-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Why? 463 Archaic 09-Apr-17 15:55
Re: Why? 480 eli stills 09-Apr-17 16:06
Re: Why? 455 Archaic 09-Apr-17 16:31
Re: Why? 394 eli stills 09-Apr-17 18:28
Re: Why? 478 Archaic 09-Apr-17 20:27
Re: Can we get back on the Topic? 405 Archaic 09-Apr-17 11:21
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 382 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 388 Aine 09-Apr-17 15:20
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 399 Archaic 09-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 465 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 16:08
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 507 Aine 09-Apr-17 18:12
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 489 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 22:40
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 522 Aine 10-Apr-17 00:14
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 393 adequatedane 10-Apr-17 13:24
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 451 Aine 10-Apr-17 14:48
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 500 adequatedane 10-Apr-17 15:14
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 625 eli stills 10-Apr-17 17:42
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 478 Aine 10-Apr-17 17:57
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 395 adequatedane 10-Apr-17 19:46
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 494 eli stills 10-Apr-17 22:26
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 418 Aine 10-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 484 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:26
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 334 Aine 11-Apr-17 13:35
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 378 Archaic 11-Apr-17 20:28
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 496 Aine 12-Apr-17 02:12
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 441 Archaic 12-Apr-17 10:12
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 419 Aine 12-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 518 Archaic 13-Apr-17 09:45
Memories of battles past... 483 Nolondil 13-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Memories of battles past... 415 Archaic 13-Apr-17 22:28
Re: Memories of battles past... 403 Jergat 17-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Memories of battles past... 366 muppedo 17-Apr-17 18:39
Re: Memories of battles past... 514 Jergat 17-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 430 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:25
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 473 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 13:45
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 368 eli stills 11-Apr-17 15:06
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 580 Sirfiroth 11-Apr-17 17:08
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 416 eli stills 11-Apr-17 17:16
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 367 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 21:35
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 385 eli stills 12-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Mod decision not good enough for the mob 392 adequatedane 12-Apr-17 12:05
Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 463 eli stills 12-Apr-17 13:55
Re: Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 371 Archaic 13-Apr-17 09:53
Re: Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 370 eli stills 13-Apr-17 13:07
Re: Isn’t all this attention precisely what he wanted? 362 Archaic 13-Apr-17 20:46
Re: Funny, Your Reasons Have Changed 577 adequatedane 13-Apr-17 13:25
Or you predudicially edited my response 598 eli stills 13-Apr-17 14:01
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 457 adequatedane 13-Apr-17 17:10
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 384 eli stills 13-Apr-17 17:33
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 460 Archaic 13-Apr-17 20:50
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 374 eli stills 13-Apr-17 21:01
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 377 Archaic 13-Apr-17 21:13
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 477 eli stills 13-Apr-17 21:39
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 466 Archaic 13-Apr-17 22:16
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 375 eli stills 14-Apr-17 01:05
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 387 Archaic 14-Apr-17 01:50
Re: No Just Provided the Truth 413 eli stills 14-Apr-17 02:27
Re: So Again Your the Victim 467 adequatedane 14-Apr-17 14:14
Am I? 386 eli stills 14-Apr-17 15:40
Re: If its not the Truth then why present the warning in your post? 469 adequatedane 13-Apr-17 21:46
Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 383 eli stills 13-Apr-17 21:58
Re: Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 491 Archaic 13-Apr-17 22:18
Re: Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 344 adequatedane 14-Apr-17 13:47
Re: Do you mean why did I include Pete's history with this topic in the post? 483 eli stills 14-Apr-17 15:35
Re: Provide Email to Mods Please 360 adequatedane 15-Apr-17 13:20
Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt with g-g-g-geometric logic 530 eli stills 15-Apr-17 16:39
Re: You Offered No Proof 476 adequatedane 15-Apr-17 17:45
Report and request. 360 eli stills 15-Apr-17 18:46
Re: You were dropping a dime. 414 adequatedane 16-Apr-17 13:34
Re: You were dropping a dime. 416 eli stills 16-Apr-17 16:02
Re: You were dropping a dime. 446 adequatedane 16-Apr-17 23:41
Re: You were dropping a dime. 361 muppedo 17-Apr-17 00:28
Re: You were dropping a dime. 339 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:25
Re: You were dropping a dime. 381 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:53
Re: You were dropping a dime. 350 eli stills 17-Apr-17 00:58
Re: You were dropping a dime. 362 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 03:28
Re: You were dropping a dime. 425 eli stills 17-Apr-17 04:26
Re: Ah, More Crap 473 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 12:57
Did you report and request my comment as I have repeatedly suggested? 341 eli stills 17-Apr-17 14:40
Re: Let's Get back to your LIE 428 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:02
Did you report and request my comment as I have repeatedly suggested? 371 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:23
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 419 adequatedane 19-Apr-17 13:19
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 348 eli stills 19-Apr-17 15:54
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 430 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 12:37
Re: I don't need the report to support my claims, but you do. 408 eli stills 20-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Just more BS 408 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 17:13
Pathetic 347 eli stills 20-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Pathetic 306 adequatedane 21-Apr-17 12:19
What? 379 Archaic 21-Apr-17 22:16
Re: What? 340 eli stills 22-Apr-17 01:30
Re: What? 541 Archaic 22-Apr-17 02:09
Re: What? 338 eli stills 22-Apr-17 03:29
Re: What? 390 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 12:02
Disingenuous and chronic patheticism 363 eli stills 22-Apr-17 13:00
Re:I'd love to see the emails and report comments you sent the mods 280 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 13:31
Then why haven't you requested it? 301 eli stills 22-Apr-17 14:52
Re: Then why haven't you requested it? 286 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Then why haven't you requested it? 419 eli stills 22-Apr-17 16:36
Re: More False Claims 331 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 21:37
Re: More False Claims 423 eli stills 22-Apr-17 22:29
Re: More False Claims 405 Archaic 22-Apr-17 22:44
Re: More False Claims 376 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 23:51
Re: Sorry the Truth Hurts so Much. 453 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 23:36
Actually I doubt you can recognize the truth let alone experience it 361 eli stills 23-Apr-17 00:35
Re: Were You the Someone Calling for a Ban? 336 adequatedane 23-Apr-17 13:14
Another day and another load in the diaper 446 eli stills 23-Apr-17 14:25
Re: Yeah There is a load in the diaper and its not mine 342 adequatedane 23-Apr-17 15:28
Still won't request the report and someone else took a dump in your diaper? 441 eli stills 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: We Know the Dumper and it ain't me. 463 adequatedane 24-Apr-17 13:51
Well you did actually get one thing right since I secretly believe that gratuatiously posting the image was wrong 751 eli stills 24-Apr-17 17:37
Re: All The Signs Of A Dime Dropper and you obviously have a lot to Hide 423 adequatedane 24-Apr-17 23:41
Re: Examples 470 Nolondil 22-Apr-17 18:55
Re: Examples 434 Archaic 22-Apr-17 20:46
Re: Examples 456 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 21:43
Re: Examples 412 Archaic 22-Apr-17 21:51
Re: Examples 409 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 23:48
Re: You were dropping a dime. 446 muppedo 16-Apr-17 19:18
Re: You were dropping a dime. 329 adequatedane 16-Apr-17 23:50
Re: You were dropping a dime. 326 muppedo 17-Apr-17 00:39
Re: You were dropping a dime. 451 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 03:34
And once again here is the definition of "soap boxing" with context 361 eli stills 17-Apr-17 04:42
Re: And once again here is the definition of "soap boxing" with context 385 Archaic 17-Apr-17 10:31
No hidden agenda, no ulterior motives, no secret cabal. 471 eli stills 17-Apr-17 14:37
Re: No You wanted action taken by the mods. 331 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:55
I wanted action taken by the mods regarding the post. 354 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:31
Re: I wanted action taken by the mods regarding the post. 336 adequatedane 19-Apr-17 13:39
Beating a dead horse 441 Racho 19-Apr-17 15:24
Re: I wanted action taken by the mods regarding the post. 343 eli stills 19-Apr-17 16:07
Re: Just more BS 334 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 12:50
Re: And once again here is the definition of "soap boxing" with context 346 adequatedane 17-Apr-17 14:07
If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 312 eli stills 17-Apr-17 14:53
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 466 adequatedane 18-Apr-17 13:20
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 343 eli stills 18-Apr-17 14:35
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 337 adequatedane 19-Apr-17 13:53
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 340 eli stills 19-Apr-17 16:24
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 345 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 13:05
Re: If you don't like Andy's definition the post a report with comment. 297 eli stills 20-Apr-17 16:36
Re: Again more BS 411 adequatedane 20-Apr-17 17:09
Re: Again, you hold yourself to a different standard than you demand of others 296 eli stills 20-Apr-17 18:18
Re: Just Deflection 450 adequatedane 21-Apr-17 12:38
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 349 Archaic 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 368 muppedo 11-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 412 Archaic 12-Apr-17 10:29
Re: Your on the right track 342 adequatedane 12-Apr-17 13:30
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 336 muppedo 12-Apr-17 22:34
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 420 muppedo 12-Apr-17 22:48
Two nations separated by a common language. 358 Archaic 13-Apr-17 09:33
Re: Two nations separated by a common language. 460 muppedo 13-Apr-17 23:35
Unfortunate 455 Archaic 13-Apr-17 23:58
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 325 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 22:17
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 412 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:24
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 421 adequatedane 11-Apr-17 12:39
Re: Your Candle Burns to Brightly. 448 Archaic 11-Apr-17 10:22
Unfortunately 381 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 15:10
Re: Unfortunately 499 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 16:12
My next response 508 drrayeye 09-Apr-17 18:39
Re: My next response 404 adequatedane 09-Apr-17 22:44
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 415 calisurfer30 22-Apr-17 01:07
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 334 eli stills 22-Apr-17 01:37
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 437 adequatedane 22-Apr-17 12:05
Re: Truck runs through crowd in Stockholm Sweden 360 Archaic 22-Apr-17 12:25
It's an agenda. 327 calisurfer30 26-Apr-17 00:14
Re: It's an agenda. 334 muppedo 26-Apr-17 01:01
Re: It's an agenda. 524 Archaic 26-Apr-17 09:52
Re: It's an agenda. 288 muppedo 27-Apr-17 23:39
Re: It's an agenda. 266 Brian Patterson 28-Apr-17 00:01
Re: It's an agenda. 364 muppedo 28-Apr-17 00:10
Re: It's an agenda. 528 Archaic 28-Apr-17 09:41
Re: It's an agenda. 394 adequatedane 26-Apr-17 13:12


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