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Brian Patterson Wrote:
> Aine wrote:
> " But once you start waving guns around, it's no
> longer peaceful."
> No one is waving guns. You have jumped the shark.


> Aine posted:
> " The fact of the matter is that the Hammonds
> didn't ask for any
> help from these clowns and they had no right to
> just try to take over government property."
> Every American citizen has the right to protest.

Did you not read what I wrote?


These clowns can protest--peacefully. That's within their rights. But once you start waving guns around, it's no longer peaceful. Peaceful would have been a sit in or some such.
> You act as if by carrying
> guns they are breaking the law.
> I would suggest that each of them
> has obtained the right to open carry.

Which is UTTERLY irrelevant. They are armed and openly threatening law enforcement officers WHILE ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING A FEDERAL BUILDING. I can't believe I even have to explain this to you.
> Aine, I can not explain
> for the life of me what has
> happened to you on this thread.

You can't?

Let me lay it out for you. People like these nuts are dangerous. Anarchy is not a good thing--but if you think they're in the right, Have Gun Will Travel, why don't you go and join them?

I also don't take very kindly to their sympathizers calling for my death simply because I am a federal employee. So yeah, I want them taken out before they get me.

Is that plain enough for you? They have no right to threaten me or anyone else who is employed by ANY government agency, be it federal, state or local or law enforcement at any level. That is terrorism.

> Your history here has in
> my opinion been almost impeccable,
> using logic and reason in almost every case.

I am using reason and logic and the rule of law. It's not my fault if you don't want to hear it.

> But for some reason, and
> maybe I am simply reading this
> incorrectly, you seem to be almost
> hysterical in your rants concerning the
> events in Oregon.

Because I am sick of these types of people. They're insane and they're just as dangerous as ISIS.

At least be honest with yourself: if they were not white rednecks--if they were black, Latino or Arab Muslim--they'd be dead already and you'd be questioning what took the G men so long to get them.

And in other news, Tamir Rice is still dead.

> I apologize in advance if
> you find this post insulting, it
> was not intended as that. I just don't
> understand how someone of your intelligence
> can become so hateful towards a group of
> protestors
> with whom you have nothing more than political
> disagreements.

They are not protesters. They are terrorists and should be dealt with as such. They believe the federal government is illegitimate and is not allowed to own land even though that land is held by the American people. They will never attempt to settle their issues legally in court because, of course, the courts have no authority either because the United States of America doesn't exist. In their fantasy world, taking land, rights and property by any means necessary, including armed sedition, is acceptable. It's also okay to threaten police and law enforcement who are attempting to do just that: enforce the law.

This is what right wing hysteria does to people.

What do you do with them?

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Oregon Yeehawdists 2155 Loki74 03-Jan-16 23:52
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 497 Aine 04-Jan-16 00:30
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 474 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 525 Aine 04-Jan-16 17:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 437 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:53
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 511 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 477 Jergat 04-Jan-16 18:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 550 Aine 04-Jan-16 20:57
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 416 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 14:43
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 567 Aine 05-Jan-16 15:48
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 521 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:05
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 547 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:22
They were tried twice 540 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:35
Re: They were tried twice 510 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:48
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 454 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-16 17:00
History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 518 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 16:28
Re: History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 523 Aine 06-Jan-16 18:00
What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 542 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 01:58
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 520 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:24
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 465 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:19
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 515 Aine 08-Jan-16 17:24
Thread split 859 Loki74 04-Jan-16 06:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 517 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 17:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 579 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 338 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 511 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 18:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 469 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 678 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 20:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 538 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 479 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 432 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 450 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 513 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:43
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 450 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:14
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 417 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:04
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 614 calisurfer30 05-Jan-16 03:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 382 Aine 05-Jan-16 14:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 528 calisurfer30 06-Jan-16 01:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 490 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 476 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:23
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 557 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:29
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 591 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 379 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:38
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 551 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:45
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 512 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 583 poster72 04-Jan-16 21:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 420 Aine 05-Jan-16 01:24
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 417 poster72 05-Jan-16 19:13
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 508 Aine 05-Jan-16 19:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 450 carolb 05-Jan-16 19:50
mod note 406 JonnyMcA 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 479 poster72 05-Jan-16 20:51
A discussion about the issues in this case 451 Ratcho 08-Jan-16 20:08
Thugs 399 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 20:08
Re: Thugs 400 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:44
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 562 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 15:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 449 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 16:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 418 Aine 05-Jan-16 17:28
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 572 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 20:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 406 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 437 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 21:42
Ethics 403 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Ethics 542 Aine 06-Jan-16 20:50
taught by your father to never point a gun 581 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 01:59
Re: taught by your father to never point a gun 421 Aine 06-Jan-16 14:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 603 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 22:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 299 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 412 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 428 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 21:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 526 carolb 06-Jan-16 21:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 366 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 514 Sirfiroth 06-Jan-16 23:33
Pot/Kettle moment 420 randompHactor 06-Jan-16 23:57
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 518 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 01:03
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 382 randompHactor 07-Jan-16 02:39
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 509 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 02:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 360 Aine 07-Jan-16 18:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 583 carolb 07-Jan-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 502 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 434 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 439 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:31
LIberal Yeehawdists 583 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 20:55
LIberal? 472 drrayeye 07-Jan-16 22:10
Re: Yes LIberal Federal Government. 493 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:08
LIberal 425 drrayeye 08-Jan-16 11:31
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 502 carolb 07-Jan-16 00:20
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 549 Loki74 07-Jan-16 07:30
Armed, pathetic and hungry 410 Loki74 07-Jan-16 08:22
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 458 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:51
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 518 Loki74 07-Jan-16 16:01
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 512 Aine 07-Jan-16 16:33
Putting things in perspective 485 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 477 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:30
Re: Putting things in perspective 508 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 421 Aine 07-Jan-16 21:59
Re: Putting things in perspective 492 carolb 07-Jan-16 22:36
Re: Putting things in perspective 494 Aine 08-Jan-16 01:33
Re: Putting things in perspective 553 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:09
By all means lets not let facts get in the way 488 Lothur 09-Jan-16 16:54
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 499 carolb 09-Jan-16 17:20
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 475 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:51
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 653 carolb 09-Jan-16 19:41
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 611 Lothur 11-Jan-16 00:40
Personally..... 497 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 587 adequatedane 08-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 426 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 444 adequatedane 09-Jan-16 18:55
Let's take a look at the person behind the appeal 525 Ratcho 10-Jan-16 16:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 592 Lothur 10-Jan-16 22:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 463 adequatedane 10-Jan-16 22:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 537 D-Archer 10-Jan-16 10:45
Spot the special forces wannabes 424 Loki74 10-Jan-16 17:02
Hilarious narrative Andy! 558 Sirfiroth 10-Jan-16 23:46
Re: Hilarious narrative Andy! 505 Loki74 11-Jan-16 09:01
Re: Hilarious narrative II Andy! 632 Sirfiroth 11-Jan-16 16:10
Lookit me, Ma! I's in Delta! 511 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:38
Get lost buddy! I's a SEAL! 390 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:42
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 484 bobj 21-Feb-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 603 Aine 22-Feb-16 00:41
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 400 calisurfer30 24-Feb-16 01:50
Re: Sherriff's uprising ...defending one of their own against the Fed's 417 Ratcho 23-Feb-16 21:06

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