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Ratcho Wrote:
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> I never said anything about shooting protesters at
> Ferguson...ever - unlike you who called for nuking
> the ME and now killing of scores of American
> citizens who are protesting an obvious travesty of
> justice.

I never said "nuke the ME". With modern conventional weapons, that's totally unnecessary. I have no problem with a massive assault against ISIS, though. They are a global threat that must be dealt with by a variety of means, including militarily.

These clowns can protest--peacefully. That's within their rights. But once you start waving guns around, it's no longer peaceful. Peaceful would have been a sit in or some such.

They want the benefits of living in modern society without the responsibility that comes with it. They truly believe the law does not apply to them.

You obviously haven't read the history of
> what led to this or statements made by former BLM
> employee who confirms that many previous wildfires
> occurred, from other ranchers AND THE BLM, and no
> charges laid.

Irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that the Hammonds didn't ask for any help from these clowns and they had no right to just try to take over government property. THAT is the salient fact. The ends do not justify the means. If they're so upset, they have recourse through their elected officials and the courts.

>
> 5 years for a wildfire - you are crazy if you
> believe this is reasonable.

I didn't say it was reasonable, but that is what the statute called for. That's why they're being sent back. I was pointing out the difference between a normal fire and a wildfire.

It is less than 1/2 of
> 1% of the 23,000 acres involved here and this
> family has crazing rights going way back and
> confirmed with the State of Oregon...if you were
> aware of any facts here. Ignorance becomes you.

Having grazing rights doesn't mean you can set it on fire, for God's sake. The BLM can do that. Not people who are renting the land for a profit.

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Oregon Yeehawdists 2164 Loki74 03-Jan-16 23:52
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 501 Aine 04-Jan-16 00:30
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 480 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 529 Aine 04-Jan-16 17:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 442 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:53
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 516 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 481 Jergat 04-Jan-16 18:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 554 Aine 04-Jan-16 20:57
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 420 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 14:43
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 572 Aine 05-Jan-16 15:48
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 526 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:05
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 550 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:22
They were tried twice 548 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:35
Re: They were tried twice 563 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:48
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 459 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-16 17:00
History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 526 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 16:28
Re: History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 529 Aine 06-Jan-16 18:00
What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 547 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 01:58
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 525 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:24
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 469 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:19
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 519 Aine 08-Jan-16 17:24
Thread split 1002 Loki74 04-Jan-16 06:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 522 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 17:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 615 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 342 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 514 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 18:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 474 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 741 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 20:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 545 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 483 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 440 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 456 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 517 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:43
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 455 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:14
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 421 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:04
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 688 calisurfer30 05-Jan-16 03:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 387 Aine 05-Jan-16 14:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 533 calisurfer30 06-Jan-16 01:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 521 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 480 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:23
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 562 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:29
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 596 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 383 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:38
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 557 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:45
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 553 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 609 poster72 04-Jan-16 21:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 426 Aine 05-Jan-16 01:24
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 423 poster72 05-Jan-16 19:13
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 512 Aine 05-Jan-16 19:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 456 carolb 05-Jan-16 19:50
mod note 411 JonnyMcA 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 486 poster72 05-Jan-16 20:51
A discussion about the issues in this case 456 Ratcho 08-Jan-16 20:08
Thugs 404 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 20:08
Re: Thugs 407 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:44
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 569 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 15:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 468 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 16:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 424 Aine 05-Jan-16 17:28
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 578 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 20:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 411 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 441 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 21:42
Ethics 407 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Ethics 546 Aine 06-Jan-16 20:50
taught by your father to never point a gun 586 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 01:59
Re: taught by your father to never point a gun 426 Aine 06-Jan-16 14:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 609 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 22:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 302 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 417 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 432 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 21:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 530 carolb 06-Jan-16 21:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 374 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 519 Sirfiroth 06-Jan-16 23:33
Pot/Kettle moment 426 randompHactor 06-Jan-16 23:57
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 523 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 01:03
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 387 randompHactor 07-Jan-16 02:39
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 514 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 02:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 362 Aine 07-Jan-16 18:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 587 carolb 07-Jan-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 505 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 436 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 445 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:31
LIberal Yeehawdists 617 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 20:55
LIberal? 477 drrayeye 07-Jan-16 22:10
Re: Yes LIberal Federal Government. 497 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:08
LIberal 430 drrayeye 08-Jan-16 11:31
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 507 carolb 07-Jan-16 00:20
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 554 Loki74 07-Jan-16 07:30
Armed, pathetic and hungry 414 Loki74 07-Jan-16 08:22
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 465 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:51
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 524 Loki74 07-Jan-16 16:01
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 518 Aine 07-Jan-16 16:33
Putting things in perspective 490 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 481 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:30
Re: Putting things in perspective 514 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 427 Aine 07-Jan-16 21:59
Re: Putting things in perspective 498 carolb 07-Jan-16 22:36
Re: Putting things in perspective 494 Aine 08-Jan-16 01:33
Re: Putting things in perspective 558 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:09
By all means lets not let facts get in the way 495 Lothur 09-Jan-16 16:54
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 504 carolb 09-Jan-16 17:20
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 483 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:51
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 708 carolb 09-Jan-16 19:41
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 618 Lothur 11-Jan-16 00:40
Personally..... 501 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 625 adequatedane 08-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 435 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 448 adequatedane 09-Jan-16 18:55
Let's take a look at the person behind the appeal 530 Ratcho 10-Jan-16 16:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 598 Lothur 10-Jan-16 22:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 470 adequatedane 10-Jan-16 22:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 541 D-Archer 10-Jan-16 10:45
Spot the special forces wannabes 428 Loki74 10-Jan-16 17:02
Hilarious narrative Andy! 562 Sirfiroth 10-Jan-16 23:46
Re: Hilarious narrative Andy! 510 Loki74 11-Jan-16 09:01
Re: Hilarious narrative II Andy! 748 Sirfiroth 11-Jan-16 16:10
Lookit me, Ma! I's in Delta! 560 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:38
Get lost buddy! I's a SEAL! 396 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:42
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 489 bobj 21-Feb-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 608 Aine 22-Feb-16 00:41
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 405 calisurfer30 24-Feb-16 01:50
Re: Sherriff's uprising ...defending one of their own against the Fed's 423 Ratcho 23-Feb-16 21:06


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