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Ratcho Wrote:
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> I never said anything about shooting protesters at
> Ferguson...ever - unlike you who called for nuking
> the ME and now killing of scores of American
> citizens who are protesting an obvious travesty of
> justice.

I never said "nuke the ME". With modern conventional weapons, that's totally unnecessary. I have no problem with a massive assault against ISIS, though. They are a global threat that must be dealt with by a variety of means, including militarily.

These clowns can protest--peacefully. That's within their rights. But once you start waving guns around, it's no longer peaceful. Peaceful would have been a sit in or some such.

They want the benefits of living in modern society without the responsibility that comes with it. They truly believe the law does not apply to them.

You obviously haven't read the history of
> what led to this or statements made by former BLM
> employee who confirms that many previous wildfires
> occurred, from other ranchers AND THE BLM, and no
> charges laid.

Irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that the Hammonds didn't ask for any help from these clowns and they had no right to just try to take over government property. THAT is the salient fact. The ends do not justify the means. If they're so upset, they have recourse through their elected officials and the courts.

>
> 5 years for a wildfire - you are crazy if you
> believe this is reasonable.

I didn't say it was reasonable, but that is what the statute called for. That's why they're being sent back. I was pointing out the difference between a normal fire and a wildfire.

It is less than 1/2 of
> 1% of the 23,000 acres involved here and this
> family has crazing rights going way back and
> confirmed with the State of Oregon...if you were
> aware of any facts here. Ignorance becomes you.

Having grazing rights doesn't mean you can set it on fire, for God's sake. The BLM can do that. Not people who are renting the land for a profit.

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Oregon Yeehawdists 2143 Loki74 03-Jan-16 23:52
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 486 Aine 04-Jan-16 00:30
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 464 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 516 Aine 04-Jan-16 17:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 427 Jergat 04-Jan-16 17:53
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 500 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 467 Jergat 04-Jan-16 18:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 539 Aine 04-Jan-16 20:57
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 407 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 14:43
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 558 Aine 05-Jan-16 15:48
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 511 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:05
Re: easy to tell you have no idea of the facts 519 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:22
They were tried twice 505 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 16:35
Re: They were tried twice 466 Aine 05-Jan-16 16:48
Re: Call it terrorism when their white...a social movement when their black? 444 Sirfiroth 05-Jan-16 17:00
History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 508 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 16:28
Re: History repeats itself...only last time it was Eric Holder? 514 Aine 06-Jan-16 18:00
What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 531 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 01:58
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 509 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:24
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 454 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:19
Re: What difference does it make (think Hillary ;) ) 502 Aine 08-Jan-16 17:24
Thread split 801 Loki74 04-Jan-16 06:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 506 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 17:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 538 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:03
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 328 Aine 04-Jan-16 18:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 500 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 18:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 460 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 631 Sirfiroth 04-Jan-16 20:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 529 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 468 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 422 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 441 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 18:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 504 carolb 04-Jan-16 18:43
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 443 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:14
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 407 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:04
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 564 calisurfer30 05-Jan-16 03:35
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 371 Aine 05-Jan-16 14:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 518 calisurfer30 06-Jan-16 01:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 462 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:21
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 467 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:23
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 546 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:29
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 580 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 367 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:38
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 541 Brian Patterson 04-Jan-16 19:45
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 478 Aine 04-Jan-16 19:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 533 poster72 04-Jan-16 21:55
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 409 Aine 05-Jan-16 01:24
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 409 poster72 05-Jan-16 19:13
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 495 Aine 05-Jan-16 19:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 442 carolb 05-Jan-16 19:50
mod note 396 JonnyMcA 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 470 poster72 05-Jan-16 20:51
A discussion about the issues in this case 440 Ratcho 08-Jan-16 20:08
Thugs 389 Ratcho 05-Jan-16 20:08
Re: Thugs 391 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:44
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 553 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 15:32
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 409 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 16:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 409 Aine 05-Jan-16 17:28
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 560 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 20:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 394 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:27
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 428 ldennyjr 05-Jan-16 21:42
Ethics 391 drrayeye 05-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Ethics 530 Aine 06-Jan-16 20:50
taught by your father to never point a gun 573 Ratcho 06-Jan-16 01:59
Re: taught by your father to never point a gun 412 Aine 06-Jan-16 14:56
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 593 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 22:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 287 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 18:49
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 401 Aine 05-Jan-16 20:05
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 417 Brian Patterson 05-Jan-16 21:58
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 517 carolb 06-Jan-16 21:40
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 357 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:19
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 506 Sirfiroth 06-Jan-16 23:33
Pot/Kettle moment 410 randompHactor 06-Jan-16 23:57
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 507 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 01:03
Re: Pot/Kettle moment 371 randompHactor 07-Jan-16 02:39
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 499 Ratcho 07-Jan-16 02:07
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 352 Aine 07-Jan-16 18:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 572 carolb 07-Jan-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 493 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:33
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 423 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:26
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 429 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:31
LIberal Yeehawdists 556 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 20:55
LIberal? 461 drrayeye 07-Jan-16 22:10
Re: Yes LIberal Federal Government. 485 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:08
LIberal 415 drrayeye 08-Jan-16 11:31
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 493 carolb 07-Jan-16 00:20
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 538 Loki74 07-Jan-16 07:30
Armed, pathetic and hungry 401 Loki74 07-Jan-16 08:22
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 451 Aine 07-Jan-16 12:51
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 506 Loki74 07-Jan-16 16:01
Re: Armed, pathetic and hungry 503 Aine 07-Jan-16 16:33
Putting things in perspective 474 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 19:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 467 Aine 07-Jan-16 19:30
Re: Putting things in perspective 498 Sirfiroth 07-Jan-16 21:19
Re: Putting things in perspective 411 Aine 07-Jan-16 21:59
Re: Putting things in perspective 484 carolb 07-Jan-16 22:36
Re: Putting things in perspective 483 Aine 08-Jan-16 01:33
Re: Putting things in perspective 543 Sirfiroth 08-Jan-16 02:09
By all means lets not let facts get in the way 481 Lothur 09-Jan-16 16:54
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 489 carolb 09-Jan-16 17:20
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 465 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:51
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 611 carolb 09-Jan-16 19:41
Re: By all means lets not let facts get in the way 601 Lothur 11-Jan-16 00:40
Personally..... 484 calisurfer30 08-Jan-16 02:25
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 545 adequatedane 08-Jan-16 22:09
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 418 Lothur 09-Jan-16 17:54
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 432 adequatedane 09-Jan-16 18:55
Let's take a look at the person behind the appeal 513 Ratcho 10-Jan-16 16:18
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 581 Lothur 10-Jan-16 22:16
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 455 adequatedane 10-Jan-16 22:37
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 527 D-Archer 10-Jan-16 10:45
Spot the special forces wannabes 413 Loki74 10-Jan-16 17:02
Hilarious narrative Andy! 548 Sirfiroth 10-Jan-16 23:46
Re: Hilarious narrative Andy! 496 Loki74 11-Jan-16 09:01
Re: Hilarious narrative II Andy! 586 Sirfiroth 11-Jan-16 16:10
Lookit me, Ma! I's in Delta! 463 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:38
Get lost buddy! I's a SEAL! 380 Loki74 11-Jan-16 13:42
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 474 bobj 21-Feb-16 19:08
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 592 Aine 22-Feb-16 00:41
Re: Oregon Yeehawdists 390 calisurfer30 24-Feb-16 01:50
Re: Sherriff's uprising ...defending one of their own against the Fed's 406 Ratcho 23-Feb-16 21:06


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