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Glass Jigsaw Wrote:
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> Hi Sean
> I don't think there are any direct descendants
> now, but,having said that there are rumours of the
> illegitimate children from the family.

No direct descendants of WS but, according to this podcast (a regular boring stratfordian podcast) there are direct descendants of some of his siblings.

<I still
> haven't forgotten the strange events around his
> 'marriage' to Anne Hathaway, older and
> pregnant,when the local woman came forward waving
> papers, saying they had been married in a church
> the previous week ?! Just as today you could not
> simply walk into somewhere and leave married.

That's not quite right according to the records.
There was a marriage application for a William shaksper to an Anne wattely. Then the following day, another application was made for a William shaksper and an Anne Hathaway.

There are a few possible explanations.

Two different William shakspers? Seems unlikely.

The wrong name was given or recorded the first day. Quite possible

He was made to marry Anne Hathaway instead of the other Anne because he'd gotten her "up the duffington"
Hathaway gave birth only four or five months after the marriage.

Unless there's something I'm missing, it doesn't really play into the authorship debate. So I'm rooting for the shotgun (pitchfork?) Wedding. WS did start popping up in London not long after so maybe he wasn't so keen on the marriage.

I'll look again to see what's known about the first Anne (if there was a first Anne). She may be the best lead on finding actual letters written by the Stratford man, play author or not.




> There are procedures, so where are those records
> ?. Plus, if his father was a Maronite Jew, I would
> be very surprised if he did not leave family
> behind when he came to London.Jochanan, Jaco
> Spiro. Expelled from Provence, France,
> 1498-1501.So How OLD was his Father ? Had his
> parents converted and he came over much later ?

I'd be interested to know what led you to these possibilities. I've not come across going down those lines. Except when discussing merchant and Marlowe's Jew of Malta.

> Edmund is buried in London at Southwark and the
> other 2 are buried at home in Stratford, Holy
> Trinity, 1639. He had 3 sisters too.Joan is the
> one who had the children giving the line of
> descent.
> Shakespeare seems to have been a pretty dissolute
> man, he has a lousy reputation whichever angle you
> come from...:)
> What a family !
> Yve

Very far fetched and extremely dodgy but.....I really love the theory that the Stratford man became a spy for burghley and was using the name William hall. There was a spy of that name who was connected to Edward kelly, John dee and possibly responsible for the imprisonment of Walter Raleigh. A (possibly the same) William hall also pops up in the stationers registry at the time of the first WS publications in 1593 and again as a printer in 1608.

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