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Glass Jigsaw Wrote:
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> Hi Madeleine. I just wondered about the name
> William because of the meanings of W that you
> explained.Shakespeare I'm sure is Athena Pallas ,
> Britannia. I can't give specific examples as it is
> about 30 years ago that a woman I knew explained
> the Hermetic philosophies used in Shakespeare. I
> came back to him from checking out lines I
> remembered from the Tempest whilst getting annoyed
> with the tv show Oak Island e.g. Drowning the book
> in Earth.This brought me to those translating all
> the codes and the way they are set out.
> I must admit that I am not a lover of Shakespeare,
> we just studied the Tempest and Othello in depth
> at school, along with years of Tudor history. I
> was more metaphysical poetry and the sonnets...:)

The Tempest is certainly an interesting specimen. I've only come around to liking Shakespeare through the very roundabout and accidental avenue of the authorship question.
Even then the only way I can understand and relate to the works is with some knowledge of the underlying themes. For instance, Hamlet, viewed through the eyes of an Oxfordian, is a fully colorized Elizabethan biopic.

Glass Jigsaw, is it your opinion that the name 'William Shakespeare' came first, before the Stratford man was ever involved or connected?

I tend to think that the actor (sic) was hanging about and someone saw his name and realized it would be a great pseudonym.
But I can also entertain the possibility that the name was created for its own merit. And subsequently the Stratford man saw an opportunity to profit because his name was similar to this popular but unknown author.
This second possibility could be what Ben Jonson is eluding to in his poem On poor poet ape.
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jonson
Poor Poet-Ape, that would be thought our chief,
Whose works are e'en the frippery of wit,
From brokage is become so bold a thief,
As we, the robb'd, leave rage, and pity it.
At first he made low shifts, would pick and glean,
Buy the reversion of old plays; now grown
To a little wealth, and credit in the scene,
He takes up all, makes each man's wit his own:
And, told of this, he slights it. Tut, such crimes
The sluggish gaping auditor devours;
He marks not whose 'twas first: and after-times
May judge it to be his, as well as ours.
Fool! as if half eyes will not know a fleece
From locks of wool, or shreds from the whole piece?

William, can also be said to have a connection to Pallas Athena/Minerva. William, comes from the Dutch Guillaume (guilded helm)
Athena is always depicted with a large plated helmet.

Guillaume

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