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Broker Wrote:
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> Hi Sean,
>
> At the risk of looking like a yurodivy, I again
> would suggest you look at the Inner Temple at
> Temple Church. Secret societies conceal much of
> history. Who is responsible for the upkeep of the
> Temple Church? Do they have a secret society that
> is totally under the radar. Even if you have
> never been there to see the symbol emblazoned at
> various points a quick YouTube of the Church and
> its surroundings will reveal a clue. Who of the
> potential authors would have qualified for this
> society?

Thanks Broker

Are you referring to Temple Church in London? Pickett and Prince discuss that quite a bit in the Templar Revelation, mostly concerning the Jean Cocteau mural of the crucifixion. Among the peculiarities they point to -
-the rendition of the artist himself looking away from the scene (a la Leonardo in the last supper)
- the crucified man only visible from the knees down (concealing his identity?)
- One character with fish shaped eye (possibly representing Christ, showing that he was not crucified)
- 58 dots visible on the dice (supposed sacred number of the Priory of Sion)

I'll definitely be making a visit next time I'm in London.



> One other thing that may give you some different
> insights is the movie Anonymous. “The Truth is
> the greatest tragedy of all.”
>
> Best

I did enjoy that movie. They're definitely hard and loose with the facts and the timeline but that's to be expected.
I'm wary of the Tudor Prince theories but I don't rule them out. And in some cases it's as important to know 'what people believed' as it is to know the truth. For example, if De Vere believed that Southampton was his son, I would say that is as helpful to an investigation of the past, as knowing the truth of the matter. Likewise if De Vere believed himself to be the bastard of Elizabeth.

Either way the movie only touches on a small part of the mystery. It would make an amazing TV series. Imagine the list of characters - De Vere, Bacon, Marlowe, Shaksper, Jonson, Spenser.....The Queen, King James, Lord Burghley, Walsingham........Essex, Dee, Raleigh, Drake, Robert and Anne Cecile.......Penelope Rich, Florio, Anne Vavasaur, .......all the Sidneys, Stanleys, Nevilles and Dudleys.
Mystery, sex, exploration, magic, intrigue, politics, murder, war and history......what more could you ask for.

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