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Hi Thanos
Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> The Sumerians date to c. 3,800BC, the Ubaid c.
> 5,500BC. The Indus Valley Civilization (IVC)
> urbanization period ("mature phase") dates to c.
> 2,600BC. Predating the IVC was the Mehrangarh
> culture of which settlements begin to appear as
> early as 7,000BC. It wasn't until the Mehrgarh
> Period II c. 5,500-4,800BC that ceramics and
> metallurgy appear which of course coincides
> directly with the arrival of the Ubaid in
> Mesopotamia and the Vinca SE Europe. Also of
> interest is that in the Mehrgarh III period c.
> 4,800-3,500BC is when they too begin building with
> mud brick like the Ubaid and also used
> Mesopotamian cylinder seals and clay stamps,
> another Ubaid invention. Personally I believe
> there is a connection to be made here.
>
I would like to make a comment. It is of course not meant to be "hostile" but my manner of 'speech' often seems to come across like that.
There are lots of threads one in particular on ancient sites started not so long ago by Brian #3 which purport dates for ancient things. Not his fault he was just citing the "accepted opinion".
If not for the 'goings on' at the time, my post would have been very much along the lines of valid comments made by poster Origyptian being:
What backs up the claim of dating?
More specifically my gripe with all the scholars and the "experts" is when they make a claim that a civilization dates to "x years BC + or - 1000 years they make no effort to include an explanation of why!?
Is it RCD (radio carbon dating)?
Is there some other valid method of declaring dates, surely not that the style of the pottery was "consistent with the period"?
Beyond 5000 yrs RCD becomes very unreliable, and IMHO it should be worded as "at least" because anything that can be RCD'd is likely the part of the LAST remnant not the very first!?
How would one RCD a city like London? What about Hiroshima , or even Berlin ,in say 1946?
Also just as a note but not meaning to derail. There is heaps of reasons to believe that Buddhism started around 500 BC. Therefore Vedic literature was far earlier as the Buddha was a revolutionary basing almost all his stuff on the vedas.
Anyway.... very interested in how you are so certain of these ..dates!?
Cheers
Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> The Sumerians date to c. 3,800BC, the Ubaid c.
> 5,500BC. The Indus Valley Civilization (IVC)
> urbanization period ("mature phase") dates to c.
> 2,600BC. Predating the IVC was the Mehrangarh
> culture of which settlements begin to appear as
> early as 7,000BC. It wasn't until the Mehrgarh
> Period II c. 5,500-4,800BC that ceramics and
> metallurgy appear which of course coincides
> directly with the arrival of the Ubaid in
> Mesopotamia and the Vinca SE Europe. Also of
> interest is that in the Mehrgarh III period c.
> 4,800-3,500BC is when they too begin building with
> mud brick like the Ubaid and also used
> Mesopotamian cylinder seals and clay stamps,
> another Ubaid invention. Personally I believe
> there is a connection to be made here.
>
I would like to make a comment. It is of course not meant to be "hostile" but my manner of 'speech' often seems to come across like that.
There are lots of threads one in particular on ancient sites started not so long ago by Brian #3 which purport dates for ancient things. Not his fault he was just citing the "accepted opinion".
If not for the 'goings on' at the time, my post would have been very much along the lines of valid comments made by poster Origyptian being:
What backs up the claim of dating?
More specifically my gripe with all the scholars and the "experts" is when they make a claim that a civilization dates to "x years BC + or - 1000 years they make no effort to include an explanation of why!?
Is it RCD (radio carbon dating)?
Is there some other valid method of declaring dates, surely not that the style of the pottery was "consistent with the period"?
Beyond 5000 yrs RCD becomes very unreliable, and IMHO it should be worded as "at least" because anything that can be RCD'd is likely the part of the LAST remnant not the very first!?
How would one RCD a city like London? What about Hiroshima , or even Berlin ,in say 1946?
Also just as a note but not meaning to derail. There is heaps of reasons to believe that Buddhism started around 500 BC. Therefore Vedic literature was far earlier as the Buddha was a revolutionary basing almost all his stuff on the vedas.
Anyway.... very interested in how you are so certain of these ..dates!?
Cheers
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