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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> DScribr wrote:
>
> > It's possible that the lid was replaced at a
> much later date,
> > and could've been Khaemwaset's work. And
> possibly the
> > tomb-robbers re-entered after the lid was
> replaced, and smashed
> > the replacement lid. (It might be worth a trip
> to the BM to see
> > what they do have. I'd be glad to go, but I'm
> too far away.)
>
> I went there 14yrs ago. Don't recall if the piece
> was on display. Great Museum if you can make the
> trip. The building itself is amazing.
>
> > I agree, Vyse's reason for the sarcophagus'
> removal is a bit
> > thin.
> >
> > My earlier point on the minor differences in the
> 2 drawings
> > come from my experiences w/ researching
> Djehutyhotep's Tomb in
> > el-Bersheh. There were many drawings, but all
> had at least
> > minor differences...so I finally checked the
> actual tomb
> > painting. It could've been simply the result of
> human error.
>
> Fair enough.
>
> > I'm not 100% sure that these drawings do
> represent an actual
> > building as this style of facade could've been
> adopted
> > somewhere along the way.
>
> Noooo. Palace facade architecture, namely a
> building, was the focal point of the first serekhs
> from Dynasty 0-the symbol and centerpiece of
> kingship. Look at the detail of Djet's serekh from
> the 1st Dynasty:
>
>
> Compare:
>
>
> They memorialized it from the very beginning of
> kingship in Egypt-its symbol was kingship. I see
> no other conclusion given this building's
> prominence in AE culture since the beginning that
> it was in fact a singular structure of great
> importance to them.
>
>
>
> Post Edited (22-Jul-15 00:23)

Hi Lee,

Like EoH pointed out, it could be an artistic impression of an actual building. Not all Palaces are the same. (And this was my meaning...I should've chosen my words more carefully.)

I knew all that about serekhs and Palace Facades from reading the Raff site. I think you are correct in that the use of the palace Facade was at least influenced by earlier Meso use, and the AE adopted it for their own use.


One more example from Tut's tomb: The sarcophagus is made of yellow quartzite, and the lid was made of rose granite. H. Carter mentions the idea that the tomb was hastily prepared, and I agree w/ him. He speculates that the original lid, (made of yellow quartzite) was damaged/broken, so they quickly made a replacement of rose granite. (Of course, they couldn't just whip this up in no time flat, stone carving takes alot of time and effort.)

But, it's possible that the rose granite lid was the original. Today, we have our choice of options for a coffin, e.g. steel, or copper outer shell, single or dbl lid, choice of interior lining design and materials, etc. It's entirely possible the King had his choices as well...and this might explain the differences we see in the overall design, and the choice of lids, etc.

Regards, Willie



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