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MJT wrote:

> The following post is lifted from the thread: Giza Pyramids:
> Order of Construction – I (MJT/Robin) want to avoid it
> disappearing.
>
> Author: Audrey (68.238.77.---)
> Date: 25-Jun-15 00:51
>
> MJT wrote:
>
> > This might well have been asked and answered previously, so
> > apologies for repeating it and all that.
> >
> > If these columns were quarried and shaped by somebody before
> > the Romans arrived on the scene, then should we expect to
> see
> > tool marks different to any that the Romans might have made?
>
> It wasn't asked, probably should have been. emphasis
> added by MJT.
> I read one paper that said there were no saw marks so they
> concluded the romans didn't use saws.
>
> That's all I can contribute since I don't know what tools and
> methods the romans typically used at that time.’
>
> _________________________________________
>
> Firstly, my thanks to Audrey for taking the trouble to respond
> to my post; it’s much appreciated.
> Now, is there anybody here who can add to Audrey’s comment?
>
> When I say ‘tool marks’ I have in mind mainly chisels.
> If there were two entirely separate groups of people involved
> in the quarrying of these Mons Claudianus columns, then I would
> imagine that their chisels (or indeed any other tools they
> used) would not have been identical; therefore forensic
> archaeology would show us whether or not there were two
> entirely separate groups of people involved.
>
> Like Audrey, I ‘don't know what tools and methods the romans
> typically used at that time.’
>
> MJT

It's not clear that the above premise is correct. Petrie is on record showing evidence of different tool marks and drastically different quality of workmanship in G1, sometimes within the same chamber. In his opinion, the Antechamber was done with far lower workmanship than some of the masonry in the lower courses, but who believes that the Antechamber was completed before the lower courses or that it was created by a different civilization?

A difference in tool marks is not, in itself, proof of a different era of stonework or evidence of "entirely separate groups of people involved".



Post Edited (26-Jun-15 17:58)

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Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 453 Thanos5150 25-Jun-15 23:19
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 487 Corpuscles 26-Jun-15 01:22
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 540 Audrey 26-Jun-15 02:00
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 465 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 02:52
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Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 463 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 04:04
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 445 Audrey 26-Jun-15 05:18
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