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Audrey wrote:

> Thanos5150 wrote:
>
> > The
> > ostraca speak extensively of the quarrying activities which
> as
> > you unknowingly note the overwhelming majority date to the
> time
> > of Hadrian which is also the most active period of using the
> > stone from MC in the Roman Empire.
>
> This is contradicted by Bulow-Jacobson
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All these columns
> must have been extracted during the first 5-6 years of Hadrians
> reign, but this period has not given a single dated
> ostracon.

No. Hadrian was born in 76AD and died 138AD. He ruled ruled from 117-138AD and was a key political figure before his ascension under his predecessor Trajan. This is the "Hadrian's time" I am referring to as in the 1st half the the 2nd century AD when these buildings are known to have been built. It was Trajan who began extensive quarrying at MC beginning in 104AD. If was during this time to around 112AD quarrying was done for Trajan's Thermae and his forum. After this there was apparently a short lull which they say:

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...with the ascension of Hadrian there is renewed activity at Mons Claudianius. One took the time to embellish the camp building a temple with columns, ad the papyrus P.Giess. 69 from 118/9 [118AD ?] shows us there was extraction of 50-foot columns, and most important we know that Hadrian had a good deal of very big columns extracted.

There are a few years missing of the ostraca which they expect to find given accepted construction dates for some of the structures, but despite this the majority of the ostraca are still found during the 1st half of the 2nd century.

They also say regarding the "missing ostraca":
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...the fact there are no dated ostraca found from a given period does not necessarily mean that there were no ostraca written during that period.

I think this is a fair statement all things considered the least of which the majority of these ostraca were found in rubbish dumps.

> I'm not arguing for or against this issue. I'm just sayin

I hear ya. I don't just post sources, I read them too. What the ostraca state is that the Romans were quarrying columns among other things at MC in the 2nd century which is the time these buildings are known to have been constructed. If this does not constitute evidence I am not sure what does. If such documents were found regarding the construction of Giza peoples faces would blow off.

I would also note that this source is from 1996 where there have been two more volumes of translations of ostraca published. 4 in all: 1992, 1997, 2000, and 2011. Maybe they found what they were looking for after all.

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Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 1042 JonnyMcA 25-Jun-15 20:33
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 454 Thanos5150 25-Jun-15 23:19
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 488 Corpuscles 26-Jun-15 01:22
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 540 Audrey 26-Jun-15 02:00
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 466 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 02:52
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Re: Mons Claudianus Tools 449 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 17:57
Re: Mons Claudianus Tools 522 MJT 26-Jun-15 19:22
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 463 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 04:04
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 446 Audrey 26-Jun-15 05:18
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 452 Jon Ellison 26-Jun-15 10:24
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 485 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 15:26
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 457 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 19:23
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 455 Thanos5150 26-Jun-15 06:28
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 386 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 14:50
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 419 Audrey 27-Jun-15 02:20
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 400 Origyptian 27-Jun-15 04:49
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 463 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 02:33
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 493 Thanos5150 26-Jun-15 07:06
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Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 429 Thanos5150 26-Jun-15 20:24
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 467 Origyptian 26-Jun-15 21:42
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 455 Corpuscles 27-Jun-15 00:19
Re: Giza Pyramids: Order of Construction part 2 457 Audrey 27-Jun-15 02:26
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