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Thanos5150 wrote:
> Hi DScribr,
>
> DScribr wrote:
>
> > Hi Thanos.
> >
> > Good presentation.
>
> Thank you.
>
> > I agree w/ you, for the most part, and you bring some very
> good
> > points.
> > (And great pics, do you have any more of the lower sect. of
> G2,
> > and surrounding area?)
>
> I have posted several in the past, but if you Google search
> Khafre pyramid casing stones and the like you can dig some up.
> What is it you are wanting to see specifically-just more?
>
> > Quoting T, "It is clear the original interior chambers are
> > completely different aesthetically and structurally than the
> > outer pyramid conversion layer with the palace facade
> > architecture being particularly telling as to the difference
> in
> > ideology of the two builders which to me separates them in
> time
> > as well...."
> >
> > It's also possible that the builders, (the actual workers)
> were
> > the same group(s) of people for the duration.... but the
> > Master-Builder, (the top boss) was changed/replaced in
> > early/mid-project, which caused the differences in methods,
> > etc.
> >
> > For me, the question is: How much time separated these 2 very
> > different thinking Master-builders??? Was a new King throned
> @
> > this time, and did he then replace the M-B, and did they also
> > change construction plans, methods, etc.???
>
> This is a good question. Personally I do not believe the
> pyramids (regardless of when the cores were built and by whom)
> of Dashur and Giza were built by one pharaoh or one at a time
> and were likely worked on by many concurrently over several
> decades if not centuries.
Regardless of the authenticity, or
> not, of the one Khufu cartouche, there are 2 dozen more
> cartouches/lines of graffiti that could not have all been faked
> ergo sometime during the 4th Dynasty people were working in the
> relieving chambers.
The cartouche was not invented until
> arguably the end of the 3rd Dynasty but in reality it becomes
> common in the 4th which dates the earliest the graffiti could
> be there. Given this could not have been mere repairs it
> suggests the 4th Dynasty marked the completion of the Giza
> pyramid project, not necessarily its origination.
I was trying to somehow date, or at least establish my Pyramid- building order just from pics....but it's probably an impossible task.
I'd suggest Radio-Carbon Dating of multiple locations, on all Pyramids, BUT, we need much more precise results than the usual plus-or-minus 150 yrs. time-frame. (My meaning is an organized, thorough, and esp. accurate study of the mortar in all Pyramids.)
Last statement: You may be right here....I think the 'Pyramid-building Era' was at least 200 yrs. long, and probably longer.
I firmly believe ALL Khufu Cartouches we now know of are authentic and attested.....The forgery idea is simply over-speculated Fringe Fantasy, and always will be. JE says he now believes ONLY the one Glyph found in the Queens C air-shaft is authentic, and all others in the GP are not....but, as usual, he offers NO evidence to support, etc.
Regards, Willie
> Hi DScribr,
>
> DScribr wrote:
>
> > Hi Thanos.
> >
> > Good presentation.
>
> Thank you.
>
> > I agree w/ you, for the most part, and you bring some very
> good
> > points.
> > (And great pics, do you have any more of the lower sect. of
> G2,
> > and surrounding area?)
>
> I have posted several in the past, but if you Google search
> Khafre pyramid casing stones and the like you can dig some up.
> What is it you are wanting to see specifically-just more?
>
> > Quoting T, "It is clear the original interior chambers are
> > completely different aesthetically and structurally than the
> > outer pyramid conversion layer with the palace facade
> > architecture being particularly telling as to the difference
> in
> > ideology of the two builders which to me separates them in
> time
> > as well...."
> >
> > It's also possible that the builders, (the actual workers)
> were
> > the same group(s) of people for the duration.... but the
> > Master-Builder, (the top boss) was changed/replaced in
> > early/mid-project, which caused the differences in methods,
> > etc.
> >
> > For me, the question is: How much time separated these 2 very
> > different thinking Master-builders??? Was a new King throned
> @
> > this time, and did he then replace the M-B, and did they also
> > change construction plans, methods, etc.???
>
> This is a good question. Personally I do not believe the
> pyramids (regardless of when the cores were built and by whom)
> of Dashur and Giza were built by one pharaoh or one at a time
> and were likely worked on by many concurrently over several
> decades if not centuries.
Regardless of the authenticity, or
> not, of the one Khufu cartouche, there are 2 dozen more
> cartouches/lines of graffiti that could not have all been faked
> ergo sometime during the 4th Dynasty people were working in the
> relieving chambers.
The cartouche was not invented until
> arguably the end of the 3rd Dynasty but in reality it becomes
> common in the 4th which dates the earliest the graffiti could
> be there. Given this could not have been mere repairs it
> suggests the 4th Dynasty marked the completion of the Giza
> pyramid project, not necessarily its origination.
I was trying to somehow date, or at least establish my Pyramid- building order just from pics....but it's probably an impossible task.
I'd suggest Radio-Carbon Dating of multiple locations, on all Pyramids, BUT, we need much more precise results than the usual plus-or-minus 150 yrs. time-frame. (My meaning is an organized, thorough, and esp. accurate study of the mortar in all Pyramids.)
Last statement: You may be right here....I think the 'Pyramid-building Era' was at least 200 yrs. long, and probably longer.
I firmly believe ALL Khufu Cartouches we now know of are authentic and attested.....The forgery idea is simply over-speculated Fringe Fantasy, and always will be. JE says he now believes ONLY the one Glyph found in the Queens C air-shaft is authentic, and all others in the GP are not....but, as usual, he offers NO evidence to support, etc.
Regards, Willie
Currently accepted Pyramide dates stand until proven otherwise.
Campbell's Chamber roof blocks are Tura Limestone until proven otherwise.
THE Cartouche in Campbell's Chamber IS Authentic, as are ALL other RC's Glyphs, until proven otherwise.
"This Forgery 'theory' has more holes than a sieve basket."
Campbell's Chamber roof blocks are Tura Limestone until proven otherwise.
THE Cartouche in Campbell's Chamber IS Authentic, as are ALL other RC's Glyphs, until proven otherwise.
"This Forgery 'theory' has more holes than a sieve basket."
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